What is your Ireland XV for the 6 Nations

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  1. CollegeTillIDie said:
    Seems that a lot of the criticism of O'Sullivan for not picking players based abroad, ( weekly on Newstalk 106 Off the Ball show) has been listened to, he even included David Wallace in the squad.

    In spite of his blind spot about Trevor Brennan it is given the injury situation as near as the best 22 available as possible!
     
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    Dodge said:
    Well I think Hickie is a better winger than Bowe
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  3. Soko said:
    Trevor Brennan should not be ahead of any of those back rows, we cant afford to have him in as a second row.
     
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    Aberdonian Stu said:
    I'd have him ahead of most of the back row in a heartbeat. Also I completely agree that Bowe is inferior to Hickie but given how rarely we've seen O'Sullivan experiment with youth at least it's a step in the right direction (albeit in an area where we need it the least).
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  5. Soko said:
    Brennan ahead of Simon Easterby, Denis Leamy, Johnny O'Connor or David Wallace? Why exactly?
     
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    joeSoap said:
    It is pretty common knowledge that Trevor Brennan played by far his best rugby 7 or 8 years ago as a blind side flanker for St Marys (when the AIL was strong), Leinster and in a few caps for Ireland. Murray Kidds reluctance to acknowledge him back then and subsequently Warren Gatlands was largely determined by the fact that even though Brennan played great, aggressive rugby back then, he was surplus to requirements mostly because of his appalling disciplinary record, and the fact that Ireland's number 6 at the time was David Corkery, probably the best six we have had since Fergus Slattery, whose career was cut short by injury.

    Brennans move to Toulouse has improved him as a player, albeit as a second row where the pace required is not as much as that of a back row. His quality of life has no doubt improved and he is happy to play every second game, as a second row.

    To say he could handle the sheer pace of International rugby today is a complete joke. To consider him as a second row ahead of O'Connell, O'Callaghan, O'Driscoll or O'Kelly is laughable. To say he could displace any of Leamy, Wallace, Foley, Easterby, O'Connor, Quinlan, Shane Jennings, Roger Wilson or even Stephen Keogh is even more laughable.

    Because he has won two Heineken Cups and is in the media spotlight because of the club he plays for is not a selection criteria for Ireland. My advice for' Trevor for Ireland' fans is to get ye're heads out of ye're arses, wake up to real rugby, and keep reading his column in the Irish Times.
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    De Town said:
    I'd go:

    15 Murphy
    14 S.Horgan
    13 O'Driscoll
    12 D'Arcy
    11 Bowe
    10 O'Gara
    9 Stringer

    8 Foley
    7 Wallace
    6 Leamy
    5 O'Connell
    4 Kelly
    3 Hayes
    2 Flannery
    1 Horan
     
  8. Soko said:
    Quote Originally Posted by joeSoap
    It is pretty common knowledge that Trevor Brennan played by far his best rugby 7 or 8 years ago as a blind side flanker for St Marys (when the AIL was strong), Leinster and in a few caps for Ireland. Murray Kidds reluctance to acknowledge him back then and subsequently Warren Gatlands was largely determined by the fact that even though Brennan played great, aggressive rugby back then, he was surplus to requirements mostly because of his appalling disciplinary record, and the fact that Ireland's number 6 at the time was David Corkery, probably the best six we have had since Fergus Slattery, whose career was cut short by injury.

    Brennans move to Toulouse has improved him as a player, albeit as a second row where the pace required is not as much as that of a back row. His quality of life has no doubt improved and he is happy to play every second game, as a second row.

    To say he could handle the sheer pace of International rugby today is a complete joke. To consider him as a second row ahead of O'Connell, O'Callaghan, O'Driscoll or O'Kelly is laughable. To say he could displace any of Leamy, Wallace, Foley, Easterby, O'Connor, Quinlan, Shane Jennings, Roger Wilson or even Stephen Keogh is even more laughable.

    Because he has won two Heineken Cups and is in the media spotlight because of the club he plays for is not a selection criteria for Ireland. My advice for' Trevor for Ireland' fans is to get ye're heads out of ye're arses, wake up to real rugby, and keep reading his column in the Irish Times.

    Spot on bar the Keogh part. He's tripe.
     
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    finlma said:
    Team for Italy game:

    G Murphy (Leicester); S Horgan (Leinster), B O'Driscoll (Leinster, captain), G D'Arcy (Leinster), T Bowe (Ulster); R O'Gara (Munster), P Stringer (Munster); M Horan (Munster), J Flannery (Munster), J Hayes (Munster), M O'Kelly (Leinster), P O'Connell (Munster), S Easterby (Llanelli), D Wallace (Munster), D Leamy (Munster).

    Replacements: R Best (Ulster), S Best (Ulster), D O'Callaghan (Munster), J O'Connor (Wasps), E Reddan (Wasps), D Humphreys (Ulster), A Trimble (Ulster).

    Personally I think Bowe is the weak link - he was very poor in the Autumn internationals. its a pity Ian Dowling hasn't played more games for Munster - he'll definitely make the cut. He's a brilliant defender and attacker.
     
  10. Soko said:
    Wallace is the big call, fair play to Edddie for that.
     
  11. pete said:
    Quote Originally Posted by finlma
    Personally I think Bowe is the weak link - he was very poor in the Autumn internationals. its a pity Ian Dowling hasn't played more games for Munster - he'll definitely make the cut. He's a brilliant defender and attacker.
    Dowling too inexperienced yet but will have advantage playing for Munster as gets more big games than Ulster lads in Europe.

    Disappointed to see O'Kelly picked as i think O'Callaghan has matured & improved a lot in the last year & offers everything O'Kelly does in the lineout & more around the pitch.
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    Dodge said:
    Yeah but O'Kelly is still doing the business for Leinster and his experience should help Flannery and Leamy. Its close though
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  13. Soko said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge
    Yeah but O'Kelly is still doing the business for Leinster and his experience should help Flannery and Leamy. Its close though


    Leamy will be helping O' Kelly not the other way round. Mal is well past it at this stage.
     
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    finlma said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Soko
    Mal is well past it at this stage.
    I agree - time for Mal to move aside and let O'Callaghan in. I'd have Mick O'Driscoll as a sub before Mal too.
     
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    Schumi said:
    Quote Originally Posted by finlma
    its a pity Ian Dowling hasn't played more games for Munster - he'll definitely make the cut. He's a brilliant defender and attacker.
    Rob Kearney would be ahead of Dowling anyway I'd imagine.
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  16. TheJamaicanP.M. said:
    Quote Originally Posted by finlma
    I agree - time for Mal to move aside and let O'Callaghan in. I'd have Mick O'Driscoll as a sub before Mal too.
    I'd have O'Callaghan ahead of O'Kelly. However, Mick O'Driscoll is cack. I'd much prefer to see Bob Casey in there than O'Driscoll.
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  17. Soko said:
    Quote Originally Posted by TheJamaicanP.M.
    I'd have O'Callaghan ahead of O'Kelly. However, Mick O'Driscoll is cack. I'd much prefer to see Bob Casey in there than O'Driscoll.


    Watching a bit too much of the rugby club I see. I agree that Casey should get a look in but they're all better than O' Kelly. If O' Driscoll moved in instead of O' Callaghan Munster wouldn't miss a beat Oh wait he's cack
     
  18. TheJamaicanP.M. said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Soko
    Watching a bit too much of the rugby club I see. I agree that Casey should get a look in but they're all better than O' Kelly. If O' Driscoll moved in instead of O' Callaghan Munster wouldn't miss a beat Oh wait he's cack
    I see enough games across the water to know that Bob Casey is an excellent second row forward. He should be fourth in the pecking order behind the three O'Connell, O'Callaghan and O'Kelly. O'Driscoll is not international class. That is borne out by his acceptance with being a squad player with Munster.
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    joeSoap said:

    Prediction

    I'm going for:

    Ireland 39-12 Italy

    England 19-15 Wales

    Scotland 13-30 France.

    Jerry Flannery and Denis Leamy are the ones I backed for first tryscorer...
     
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    finlma said:
    I'm going for the following:

    Ireland 35 v Italy 13
    England 32 v Wales 9
    Scotland 18 v France 27


    My tip for the Championship is Wales to win only 1 game.