Granny Rule candidates

**Den Perry** · 18/01/2006, 3:57 PM

Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke

ill go along with that stutt, but he does have the link and i think there was speculation about him during the Kerr era, will be interesting to see Stans take on it.

now... im going purely on surname here but does anyone know of the existence of a green granny for any of the following?

Gavin McCann
Gareth Barry
David Dunn
Michael Carrick
Aaron Lennon

it would be better to net a couple of these rather than lower league players if we are going to take this approach

Think Gareth Barry has a full cap for England. Good left back though

**OwlsFan** · 18/01/2006, 4:01 PM

Correct:
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Birmingham manager Steve Bruce has signed his son, Alex, from Blackburn Rovers. Bruce Jnr is a current U21 international, qualifying because of a Northern Irish grandmother. He has signed a two and a half year contract, but will first see out his current loan deal at Oldham, which ends in March. Alex can play in central defence or midfield.
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He went on loan to Sheffield Wednesday. He's a stick. Any man who signs his son from other club and who is brutal deserves to get the sack. Nepotism - I hate it.

**zinedineontour** · 18/01/2006, 4:17 PM

As a Sunderland fan Liam Lawrence should be a shoe in into the squad. . Has been in excellent form as of late as is starting to score a few as well .. Could solve our problem on the right of midfield .. Andy reid has not figured much so Lawrence will hopefully be given a run ...

**sligoman** · 18/01/2006, 4:48 PM

Originally Posted by M@ttitude

Here we go again.. please sligoman lets stay out of it! My nephew isnt spanish because he was born on holidays..

Like I said, I think we discussed this before so I'm not gonna talk about it anymore

Jos�

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**Plastic Paddy** · 18/01/2006, 4:59 PM

Originally Posted by sligoman

Like I said, I think we discussed this before so I'm not gonna talk about it anymore

We'll win you round eventually, you'll see.

PP

**gustavo** · 18/01/2006, 5:11 PM

i dont thhink we should go cap in hand for any of these players , if they did have irish lineage surely they would have declared for us a long time ago if they did feel any irish affinity

**Patrick Dunne** · 18/01/2006, 6:33 PM

Surely there must be some Irish connection ?
Grandfather ?

**SaucyJack** · 18/01/2006, 6:40 PM

Originally Posted by Patrick Dunne

Surely there must be some Irish connection ?
Grandfather ?

I think "Liam"( as well as Kieran and Conor) is just becoming a common name now, like Brian or Kevin, and generally doesn't denote any Irish connections.

**gustavo** · 18/01/2006, 8:30 PM

carrick definetly does anyway and is a good bet to go to the world cup with them

**Soper** · 18/01/2006, 9:02 PM

I'll come clean lads

Stan rang me up today, sourcing me out to see if I was eligible to play for the team and seeing if I would be up for bamboozling the opposition.

I'm considering it.

**IsMiseSean** · 18/01/2006, 11:22 PM

What about Patrick Kohlmann at Dortmund, was he already in the U21 squad last year?

**SwindonIrish** · 18/01/2006, 11:24 PM

Rory Fallon, England U-17 international, born in New Zealand, likley to play for NZ in future

**Metrostars** · 18/01/2006, 11:44 PM

List of all players in MLS:
http://www.mlsnet.com/MLS/players/
Of those I'm pretty sure who have not been capped with Irish sounding names (dont know if they actually qualify):

Michael Bradley (defensive midfielder who has just joined a teamin Holland)
Jon Conway goalkeeper
Jim Curtin center back
Mike Magee midfielder/forward
David Mahony gk
Danny O'Rourke defensive midfielder
Michael Parkhurst center-back(parents from Ireland)
Tim Regan full back

O'Rourke, Bradley and Parkhurst are very good young players, the rest are so-so.

**Qwerty** · 19/01/2006, 12:11 AM

I don't think McSheffrey is eligible, he played for England at U20 level and is now 23. The fact that he represented England is enough for me and I don't mean that negatively.

To be honest as we have so much young talent coming through I would almost prefer Stan to try and find some mature players through the granny rule as I think we need a bit of maturity and leadership, another Townsend would be very nice, thank you vm.

**Tenderloins** · 19/01/2006, 8:36 AM

I see in this mornings Indo that Readings David Kitson doesn't believe in "The Granny Rule", so thats him out .

**Greenbod** · 19/01/2006, 9:42 AM

Originally Posted by Tenderloins

I see in this mornings Indo that Readings David Kitson doesn't believe in "The Granny Rule", so thats him out .

Just read that piece in the Indo. You've got to admire the guy's principles.

**pete** · 19/01/2006, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Tenderloins

I see in this mornings Indo that Readings David Kitson doesn't believe in "The Granny Rule", so thats him out .

Huge respect for Kitson not using dubious irish link thats over 100 years old.

I also read in the Indo with embarishment the way Staunton is touting the irish international team to anyone worldwide with any link. I also thought it was pathetic the way he asking football fans to alert him in Australia & the US. If he doesn't have a good enough scouting network himself then he shouldn't be manager. Looking for players in Australia is an insult to the eL.

**Hither green** · 19/01/2006, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by pete

I also read in the Indo with embarishment the way Staunton is touting the irish international team to anyone worldwide with any link. I also thought it was pathetic the way he asking football fans to alert him in Australia & the US. If he doesn't have a good enough scouting network himself then he shouldn't be manager. Looking for players in Australia is an insult to the eL.

I agree with you there. Fine let's use the granny rule like we've done in the past but we don't need to advertise the fact. It's one thing to take advantage of the rule but peddling the green shirts to anyone with an Irish connection just adds to riddicule we normally receive. It was bad enough him mentioning it at the press conference...

**Kingdom** · 19/01/2006, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by pete

Huge respect for Kitson not using dubious irish link thats over 100 years old.

I also read in the Indo with embarishment the way Staunton is touting the irish international team to anyone worldwide with any link. I also thought it was pathetic the way he asking football fans to alert him in Australia & the US. If he doesn't have a good enough scouting network himself then he shouldn't be manager. Looking for players in Australia is an insult to the eL.

Yes he doesn't come across as the subtle type! While it is necessary in our case to some degree to source players, it is bullsh!t to ask fans to alert him. Fully agree with what you say Pete.

**Tenderloins** · 19/01/2006, 10:38 AM

Staunton is trying to dig up as many players as possible. Of course not all will be International standard.
There are plenty of Americans and Australians playing in Europe too don't forget. The more players available the better.