Staunton Eircom League Scouts

**dcfcsteve** · 16/01/2006, 5:25 PM

Watched Stan's press conference live this morning.

Ignoring the wholly unimpressive way in which he delivered - sorry, read-out - his speech, it was good to see that in response to a question re the Eircom League he said that he will have scouts at games keeping an eye out for him. Also said that he would go to some games himself.

Will be interesting to see if he does indeed follow-up on this.

If only Weso hadn't gone to Loserton he might have been in with a shout of a friendly place at some point....

**pete** · 16/01/2006, 5:32 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

...he said that he will have scouts at games keeping an eye out for him. Also said that he would go to some games himself.

Noty seen the press conference myself but sounds like token answer. Maybe he'll have token eL player in first squad to get some eL support?

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

If only Weso hadn't gone to Loserton he might have been in with a shout of a friendly place at some point....

Instead hes lost to Alloa & Inverness in the space of 4 days.

Seen a few minutes of SPL highlights & he was visable with a few nice passes. He didn't even look small so SPL player must be small. I wouldn't think Livingston have any hope of SPL top 6 in near future which is really where he would need to be to gain attention.

**superfrank** · 16/01/2006, 5:42 PM

Originally Posted by pete

Noty seen the press conference myself but sounds like token answer. Maybe he'll have token eL player in first squad to get some eL support?

Why do you have to be so cynical??

After Kevin Doyle and Wes Hoolahan going over to the UK there's plenty proof that the players in our league are good enough.

**Dyl10** · 16/01/2006, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by superfrank

After Kevin Doyle and Wes Hoolahan going over to the UK there's plenty proof that the players in our league are good enough.

Really? i suppose both of them have proved themselves on the international scene

**Soper** · 16/01/2006, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Dyl10

Really? i suppose both of them have proved themselves on the international scene

Well, players like John O'Shea haven't even proved themselves for the national team

**Dodge** · 16/01/2006, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Watched Stan's press conference live this morning.

Ignoring the wholly unimpressive way in which he delivered - sorry, read-out - his speech, it was good to see that in response to a question re the Eircom League he said that he will have scouts at games keeping an eye out for him. Also said that he would go to some games himself.

McCarthy said the same thing. Seen him at one Pats game (a ta time when we were good...) and that was a free weekend in England

If only Weso hadn't gone to Loserton he might have been in with a shout of a friendly place at some point....

Hoolahan's not good enough for internatonal football

**sfc red** · 17/01/2006, 12:24 AM

And some of the other donkeys in there are? Thats rubbish

**dancinpants** · 17/01/2006, 4:40 AM

Originally Posted by Soper

Well, players like John O'Shea haven't even proved themselves for the national team

Ah Soper!!! Ye scared him off too quickly!!.

There's plenty of muck in the current Irish team that could be replaced with eL talent. But no - all the Irish fans of English teams can't what's beyond Sky Sports. Mind you they all thought Doyle wasn't good enough a few months ago, now they're all bangin' on about him like they knew of him all along - all over him like a cheap suit FFS...

**Dodge** · 17/01/2006, 9:26 AM

Originally Posted by sfc red

And some of the other donkeys in there are? Thats rubbish

Which midfield/winger is Hoolahan better than?

**pete** · 17/01/2006, 9:58 AM

I am cynical because of the way Staunton said "i might even watch some eL myself". Token gesture.

**gustavo** · 17/01/2006, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by superfrank

After Kevin Doyle and Wes Hoolahan going over to the UK there's plenty proof that the players in our league are good enough.

so the only proof our league can give that its players are good enough is if they go to the UK?

**Poor Student** · 17/01/2006, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by gustavo

so the only proof our league can give that its players are good enough is if they go to the UK?

That's about the size of it. It's very hard to judge if a player can cut the mustard at international level unless they move to a higher standard league (generally in the UK i.e. EPL, Championship and SPL). You have few chances to ever try and test a player at international level and very little margin for error so you have to go for the safe choice of seeing players tested at a higher level than the eL.

**tiktok** · 17/01/2006, 10:11 AM

Danny Murphy and Sean Dillon are both better at left back than either O'Shea or Maybury IMO.
Owen Heary has been overtaken in the pecking order for the right fullback slot
Roy O'Donovan would provide good cover for the right wing position where we also have a lack of pace/ability.

I doubt if any will get a shot, I agree with Pete, Staunton's 'sure I might even though and look myself' is right up there with Steve Coppell claiming he can't remember seeing Kevin Doyle 'because I'd had a few Guinnesses'

Token Gesture.

**Mr A** · 17/01/2006, 4:09 PM

The bit that said more than his comments directly on the eL was that he said he would be using the Granny rule where ever possible to get new players I think. That's obviously more where he sees new players coming from than the eL. Can't blame him for using the rule if he can get a few premiership players signed up to the cause, dodgy and all as it feels.

**SÓC** · 17/01/2006, 5:05 PM

Originally Posted by tiktok

Danny Murphy and Sean Dillon are both better at left back than either O'Shea or Maybury IMO.
Owen Heary has been overtaken in the pecking order for the right fullback slot
Roy O'Donovan would provide good cover for the right wing position where we also have a lack of pace/ability.

Paisley too, anytime he's played for the U-21 he's been the best player on the pitch

**A face** · 17/01/2006, 6:01 PM

Originally Posted by pete

I am cynical because of the way Staunton said "i might even watch some eL myself". Token gesture.

I have to agree .... Its tokenism, at its worst.

**Mayo Red** · 17/01/2006, 9:53 PM

Originally Posted by dancinpants

There's plenty of muck in the current Irish team that could be replaced with eL talent.

Gary Doherty anyone?

**Rory H** · 18/01/2006, 11:00 AM

id have to be pretty drunk^

his 1st squad will be picked around feb 20th,2 weeks before the season starts and we wont pick anyone in pre-season probably...so its at a bit of a disadvantage already...however...these 2 friendlies are not about results and i feel john o flynn jason byrne roy o donovan and eh john o hara should be picked

**dcfcsteve** · 18/01/2006, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by wild rover

id have to be pretty drunk^

his 1st squad will be picked around feb 20th,2 weeks before the season starts and we wont pick anyone in pre-season probably...so its at a bit of a disadvantage already...however...these 2 friendlies are not about results and i feel john o flynn jason byrne roy o donovan and eh john o hara should be picked

Friendlies usually shouldn't be about results - but for a new manager (especially one who's under a question mark before he's even begun) you can be damn sure Stan will be looking for results. He'd be daft not to be, with all the doubt around.

**Speranza** · 18/01/2006, 11:25 AM

John O'Flynn

Jason Byrne yes but not that crock O'Flynn. As much as I love the eL some posters are way off the mark in thinking more than 1 or 2 players are of international quality.