Where will Robson sit?

[Karlos]

Hey Karlos you are just robbing my points that I made previously. Get your own points

not at all.....merely adding some more value to them!!

I think your just shocked we agree on something!!

[klein4]

Sorry Klein if you find the idea that people can agree on this forum so sickening. Karlos clearly knows what he is talking about when it comes to coaching etc, the only thing that lets him down is the club that he supports. I for one respect people on this forum that have intelligent and well argued points and if they clearly know what they are talking about.

Apology accepted Neil.

[NeilMcD]

T&E, I was including you in the group of people that seem to have a bit of knowledge about football.

However I disagree with you that Clarke and Mourinhio knew much about each before they worked together at Chelsea, or that Martin Jol knew much about Hughton Or Erikson knew much about mc Claren or that Wenger knew Pat Rice.


Brady should know that you dont have to be best mates to be an effective team as he sees it at first hand at Arsenal. I think a mistake that Mc Carthy made was that he had Ian Evans with him at Ireland so he was basically a yes man to Mc Carthy. The same with Maurice Setters.

[NeilMcD]

Apology accepted Neil.

My mate is a comedian, do you want his number or maybe you should give Des Bishop a call as he is doing a series looking for stand ups.

[Tired&Emotional]

T&E, I was including you in the group of people that seem to have a bit of knowledge about football.

However I disagree with you that Clarke and Mourinhio knew much about each before they worked together at Chelsea, or that Martin Jol knew much about Hughton Or Erikson knew much about mc Claren or that Wenger knew Pat Rice.


Brady should know that you dont have to be best mates to be an effective team as he sees it at first hand at Arsenal. I think a mistake that Mc Carthy made was that he had Ian Evans with him at Ireland so he was basically a yes man to Mc Carthy. The same with Maurice Setters.

OK & take your point - you've come up with a few, a good few, there that I can't argue with - think Stuttgart88 says it best (from my take on it) with "too many cooks" and whether they all complement each other..

Only playing devil's advocate, of course, will be willing this to work like most of us and hope they put us back on the Intl football map

[NeilMcD]

I think the thing about coaches no knowing each other is that it is a risk. It has worked before and there are numerous examples but Staunton and Robson may clash over many ideas and they may find it unworkable. However I dont think this is going to ha0en. I think the main thing stopping us qualifying for Euro 2008 is lack of quality and experience on the playing side and a really tough group.

[klein4]

My mate is a comedian, do you want his number or maybe you should give Des Bishop a call as he is doing a series looking for stand ups.

If you were looking to send an arrow thru my heart...then bullseye...

[NeilMcD]

I would rather talk about footballing issues to be honest.

[Tired&Emotional]

So Klien4...where do you think he should sit, assuming you have an opinion as you've decided to throw your t'pence worth into this thread

[klein4]

where he should sit?
I assume if he is part of the management team he should be on the bench with the manager and his team.
if he is to sit in the stand for appearances sake; well that is just ridiculous.

[NeilMcD]

THere is nothing to suggest that he will be in the stand. Did we all question where, Chris Hughton was going to sit when he got the job. Did we question whether Brian and Chris knew each other, no we didnt. In fact, we and I mean as I said this at the time, we congratualted Kerr for appointing an ex Ireland international who had his coaching badges and was a coach under a number of manager at Spurs.

[Poor Student]

He should and I think will sit in the stand (wherever that may be). Staunton in the press conference Robson won't be that much use coming up to matches as he will be after matches and in the long tracts between games. I doubt they'll be in contact during games in that case.

[colster]

Does it really matter whether he's in the stands or on the bench.
There are plenty of examples of managers who sit in the stands for parts of a game. If Robson sits up there he can still provide useful comment during, at half time or after a game.

[hamish]

on a chair

[livehead1]

T&E, I was including you in the group of people that seem to have a bit of knowledge about football.

However I disagree with you that Clarke and Mourinhio knew much about each before they worked together at Chelsea, or that Martin Jol knew much about Hughton Or Erikson knew much about mc Claren or that Wenger knew Pat Rice.


Brady should know that you dont have to be best mates to be an effective team as he sees it at first hand at Arsenal. I think a mistake that Mc Carthy made was that he had Ian Evans with him at Ireland so he was basically a yes man to Mc Carthy. The same with Maurice Setters.

i think it might work slightly different at international level. there some differences such as the fact that they meet irregularly whereas club managers and their coaches work together daily. Therefore many international managers will feel that it is important that they are working with someone that they know exactly how they work as they dont have the same chance to 'get to know each other' as they would at club level.

[Tired&Emotional]

Does it really matter whether he's in the stands or on the bench.
There are plenty of examples of managers who sit in the stands for parts of a game. If Robson sits up there he can still provide useful comment during, at half time or after a game.

I think the question eludes to the role of Robson on a game-to-game basis, team selection, tactics etc as opposed to where his ars* is more comfortable

[colster]

I think the question eludes to the role of Robson on a game-to-game basis, team selection, tactics etc as opposed to where his ars* is more comfortable

I think the question was where would he actually sit during games. I don't think it matters that much.
Anyway, as far as team selection + tactics go I think he'll have an input into them all but Stan will have the final say.
I think he'll be involved in Training as well especially in training matches, set pieces, tactics. He'll also be involved in video analysis.
He'll also be involved in some scouting of players.

Basically he'll be involved in practically everything.

[Karlos]

However I disagree with you that Clarke and Mourinhio knew much about each before they worked together at Chelsea, or that Martin Jol knew much about Hughton Or Erikson knew much about mc Claren or that Wenger knew Pat Rice.

Brady should know that you dont have to be best mates to be an effective team as he sees it at first hand at Arsenal. I think a mistake that Mc Carthy made was that he had Ian Evans with him at Ireland so he was basically a yes man to Mc Carthy. The same with Maurice Setters.

That was the point I was making earlier!!! Thief!

There's a long list in international Football too of coaches who never worked together. Generally, Managers will bring in a coach they know (O'Reilly, McDonald, Tord Gripp etc ) and an experienced coach and/or coaches that they haven't worked with but have local or international knowledge e.g. (Robson, McClaren, Sammy Lee, Tommy Burns with Walter Smith, Eddie Nez with Wales etc etc). I don't see any issue in the set up personally. Really what we have appointed is considered 'best practise' in the modern game.

[geysir]

If he sits in the dug out, fine but keep quiet at 1/2 time in the dressing room, that control should be Stan's perogative. If he is in the stand I hope he resists the urge to do a Cruyff, leaving his seat and coming down to the touchline to direct the team.

[paul_oshea]

[QUOTE]Robsons role will be like the mate you text at pub quizzes for answers and then high five yourself that you are so smart.[QUOTE]

I thought i was the only one to do that!!!