Quotethe whole board should have been made walk the plank long ago about time we got a good old fashioned lynch mob together and burned them out of merrion square and then hang them from the trees
Delaney should stay as FAI chief executive
Delaney should resign as FAI chief executive
Any chance of a poll about whether people think he should walk after the staunton appointment debacle (not stan per say, but the leaking to the press, poor spinning through dervan and the add on of robson undermining stan)?
Last edited by Roverstillidie; 14/01/2006 at 6:35 PM.
the whole board should have been made walk the plank long ago about time we got a good old fashioned lynch mob together and burned them out of merrion square and then hang them from the trees
save the sheep shaggers bring back beheadings for waherford
He shouldnt be there in the first place but he should certainly walk now
I set up a poll and registered the first vote. Guess which way I jumped...
PP
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on the grounds is 100% anti the waterford waster, i think ill hazard a guess?!?
Glad this poll was created...Does anyone have anything positive to say about Delaney? There should also be poll created asking people do they wanna actually get this muppet ousted? (ie do something about it) We could get him sacked if we really wanted to..bit a people power would do it?
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And dont even mention Fran Rooney ffs
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
TBH, I know FAI about him but there was a bit of a glowing article about him in the daily blueshirt today - good business history, hasn't put a foot wrong since taking over as CEO, got good deal with RTE to show EL games. Time to walk the plank is if this 'inspired' move goes pear-shape. CVs count for nothing in football e.g. Bertie Vogts and Scotland. I'm voting he stays (for a while) just because it kills me seeing Irish people out of work.Originally Posted by onenilgameover
This is the cooooooooooooolest footy forum I've ever seen!
He only got in because of his dad, not because of his track record. They seem to think they are some kind of dodgy mobile phone dealers, not a sports governing body.
Sack them all and hand the FAI over to the Genesis people.
Firstly, I like the foot.ie logo - very clever.
Secondly, the poll is a knee jerk reaction to an appointment which we don't know whether it will work out.
Thirdly, other than the appointment, is there another reason Delaney should resign ?
Fourthly, who would you replace Delaney with ?
Fifthly, to the person who said the whole Board should resign, who should that be replaced with?
I'd say lets review the appointment at the end of the first campaign. I heard Damien Richardson wholeheartedly supporting it on the Last Word on Friday. I am surprised as anyone by it but I do hate knee jerk reactions. I would love to hear from Aldo who was my man.
Isnt that the point? we dont know because steve staunton has no track record in management. so on what basis was he given the job? I think 99.9% of people want him to do well but its a total unknown as to whether he will or not cause he has no previous track record in management.
and I think delaney should at least apologise/explain why people were man handled by security on the way into the Faroes match and told they would be refused entry if they carried a red card protesting at the way the FAI was being run.
He may have got involved initially because of his Dad, but John Delaney has shown himself to be a very shrewd operator and he certainly has organised the FAI into better shape than it was up to 12/18 months ago. Even Delaney will admit that there is still loads of work to do.
You have to remember that there is 30, 40, 50 years of 'old school' thinking still around the FAI and that the FAI Council, to whom the Board of Management (of which Delaney is the CEO) reports, is made up of nominees of the EL clubs, the various leagues, schools/colleges/universities football, womens football, referees and several Honorary life Vice Presidents and Honorary Life members. I believe there are over 80 in total, all with different views and different vested interests.
The only body not represented on the FAI Council are the 'fans', although indirectly through the EL clubs and leagues you could argue they are. I believe there ought to be independent Irish football supporters representation on the FAI Council, but how would you organise it? You only have to read this forum to see the wide variety of views and opinions that supporters have and to see the difficulty there would be in getting a consensus and a mandate to represent supporters interests.
You should also remember that Delaney was appointed CEO, after going through a selection process with many others. While he may have bulshi**ed his way up the FAI ranks under the previous administration, his appointment as CEO, while not directly overseen by the Govt. was certainly approved by the Minster of the Arts, Sports and Tourism. His appointment and the manangement structure that is now in place is in line with the recommendations of the Genesis Report.
Delaney is a successful businessman so you have to assume he has some commercial accumen. He is also a football man and knows his way around the Irish and international football scene. Fran Rooney had similar qualities but his management and leadership style lost him the respect and support of everyone in Irish football, apart, ironically from the fans and the only thing he did for them was (a) made a couple of hundred extra international match tickets available to EL fans and (b) brought Brazil to town.
Suggestions of impractical solutions like 'sack them all' and 'hand the FAI over to the Genesis people' do not really contribute to the debate.
There is no way Delaney would have 'staked his future' on recommending the appointment of the Stan/Bobby team, if he did not think it was the best workable option that was available at the time.
So far, he has shown himself to be an effective CEO and has not done much wrong. He has secured better sponsorship deals, he has 'extracted' more Govt. money for grassroots football, he has been to the fore in ensuring the FAI interests are proprerly represented in the Landsdowne Road project and in discussion with the GAA re Croke Park. Arguably, his only controversial decision prior to his recommendation of the appointment of Stan/Bobby was his recommendation that Brian Kerr's contract should not be renewed, a decision that was probably supported by the majority but not all fans.
I have a feeling that this time Delaney will have got it right again.
Honest! I am not a secret Tim nor a closet Sham - I really am a Seagull.
Your points 2 and 3: Since I was the one who set the poll up, you'll forgive me if I state my reasons for doing so. Not quite as knee-jerk as you'd have it, the nonsense surrounding the jettisoning of Kerr and his replacement with a "top-class international manager" was but the final straw for me where Delaney is concerned. People here are talking about his abilities as a "businessman", puff pieces in the Indo notwithstanding; I'd expect nothing less than business competence from a qualified accountant. What Delaney is not is a football man and it shows.Secondly, the poll is a knee jerk reaction to an appointment which we don't know whether it will work out.
Thirdly, other than the appointment, is there another reason Delaney should resign ?
Fourthly, who would you replace Delaney with ?
Fifthly, to the person who said the whole Board should resign, who should that be replaced with
I'd say lets review the appointment at the end of the first campaign. I heard Damien Richardson wholeheartedly supporting it on the Last Word on Friday. I am surprised as anyone by it but I do hate knee jerk reactions. I would love to hear from Aldo who was my man.
What I also find deeply worrying is the emphasis being placed on the Genesis report as some sort of panacea for the ills facing the game in Ireland. In his position as FAI CEO Delaney should have seen it implemented, challenged or replaced by a better plan. The lack of action is staggering. And that's before I question the track record or suitability of Genesis, a management consultancy that I'd never heard of before or since in this or any other line of work, to advise on the way forward for football in Ireland. I detect a lack of leadership. And that's Delaney's job.
And even if I hadn't thought any of that about Delaney previously, the backing of a p*ss, wind and sh*t merchant like Damien Richardson would soon have me running for the door. The guy may be a hero on Leeside but, after Fat Pat had done all the hard work, even Roddy Collins could have taken Cork to the league title. Loquacity when compiling programme notes or newspaper columns does not a good football analyst make (Eamon Dunphy take note).
Take it from me, this is a considered action. I think the poll results thus far show how foot.ie posters feel on this one. Fairly conclusive, no?
Your point 4. Not my job, but I'd suggest for the next FAI CEO an outsider (i.e. no-one tainted by association with the current administration) with at least a top-flight MBA and proper experience in sports marketing and administration. Not some parvenu whose dad was great mates with Milo Corcoran and the like. It's not good enough.
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My attidude to Delaney is the same as my attiture to Brian Kerr. He should only be removed if there is someone better available to replace him.
As for Genesis, I've only read their third report (the one on the eL) and I was less than impressed. I've written a short fanzine piece on it, below, if anyone is interested.
www.stigonline.com/STIGi1.pdf
Last edited by Student Mullet; 15/01/2006 at 8:50 PM.
"top-class international manager"Your points 2 and 3:Not quite as knee-jerk as you'd have it, the nonsense surrounding the jettisoning of Kerr and his replacement with a "top-class international manager" was but the final straw for me where Delaney is concerned. People here are talking about his abilities as a "businessman", puff pieces in the Indo notwithstanding; I'd expect nothing less than business competence from a qualified accountant. What Delaney is not is a football man and it shows
Where exactly did you find that quote?
Its not a great stretch to assume that they tried to get O'Neill.
On the appointment of Staunton.
After Stan, who else was available? who else applied?
Who else would you prefer to manage the Irish team, realistically?
There are reports that the alternative was Aldridge and Whelan.
Paragraph 6 in the following article, plus countless other sources. It was widely reported at the time of Kerr's dismissal.
http://www.ireland.com/sports/soccer...953139429.html
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Eh????? Venables would definitely have been a better choice. And he DID apply
You're just hung up on Venables. Rumour has it that you would have needed a securicor van to collect from ladbrokes had he been made manager!!!
I heard and read quite a few but not that one.Paragraph 6 in the following article, plus countless other sources. It was widely reported at the time of Kerr's dismissal.
http://www.ireland.com/sports/soccer...953139429.html
So who else would you have realistically preferred as manager?
Don't believe rumours. All my bets were with Paddy Power, Betfair and Boylesports. I also had a straight bet with delaney.....now i'm beginning to wonder did he know something Ididn't????/You're just hung up on Venables. Rumour has it that you would have needed a securicor van to collect from ladbrokes had he been made manager!!!
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