Delaney: should he stay or should he go?

**Plastic Paddy** · 16/01/2006, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by geysir

So who else would you have realistically preferred as manager?

My preference or otherwise is not germane to this thread. It's the "process" that was followed that so irks me, as I elucidated above.

PP

**Macy** · 16/01/2006, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Secondly, the poll is a knee jerk reaction to an appointment which we don't know whether it will work out.

Knee Jerk reaction? Take the whole Kerr/top class replacement/stauton appointment out of it, and he should still go!

**Peadar** · 16/01/2006, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Thirdly, other than the appointment, is there another reason Delaney should resign ?

Where have you been for the last year?
Do you know anything about Irish football!

**Tired&Emotional** · 16/01/2006, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by onenilgameover

Glad this poll was created...Does anyone have anything positive to say about Delaney? There should also be poll created asking people do they wanna actually get this muppet ousted? (ie do something about it) We could get him sacked if we really wanted to..bit a people power would do it?

He'd make a good politician & spindoctor.....

**klein4** · 16/01/2006, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Peadar

Where have you been for the last year?
Do you know anything about Irish football!

at last someone has said it....

**geysir** · 16/01/2006, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy

My preference or otherwise is not germane to this thread. It's the "process" that was followed that so irks me, as I elucidated above.

PP

Criticism of the process and Delaney is for free. The result of the process is stimulating examination of the process.
I doubt if there would be more than a few whispers about the process if O'Neill had accepted. He didn't.
As regards the process to find a new manager, a different process might well have come to the same conclusion.
The appointment is germane to the thread otherwise the process would not be up for discussion. It's the appointment which is the focus. If you have criticism about the process to find a new manager then outline an alternative. An opinion on the result of the process is germane.
Possible alternative process?
Kerr should have stayed.
Have a new manager in place before Kerr's contract runs out.
Appoint a respected legend or legends to find another manager.
Appoint a different manager from those available.
Wait longer for more candidates.
Any other?

**Plastic Paddy** · 16/01/2006, 1:22 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

Criticism of the process and Delaney is for free. The result of the process is stimulating examination of the process.

I doubt if there would be more than a few whispers about the process if O'Neill had accepted. He didn't.

As regards the process to find a new manager, a different process might well have come to the same conclusion.

The appointment is germane to the thread otherwise the process would not be up for discussion. It's the appointment which is the focus. If you have criticism about the process to find a new manager then outline an alternative. An opinion on the result of the process is germane.

I'll say it again and emphasise the key point for you. My preference or otherwise for the post of senior team manager is not germane to this thread, which is about whether the FAI CEO should stay or leave.

Originally Posted by geysir

Possible alternative process?
Kerr should have stayed.
Have a new manager in place before Kerr's contract runs out.
Appoint a respected legend or legends to find another manager.
Appoint a different manager from those available.
Wait longer for more candidates.
Any other?

All I ask is that any future managerial appointment is based on a clear strategy for HR recruitment and retention. That's what any CEO of any company or organisation, private or public, would be expected to deliver. Where's the FAI's HR strategy?

Patronage and nepotism do not constitute such a strategy. Delaney must go.

PP

rerun · 16/01/2006, 3:40 PM

Originally Posted by lopez

CVs count for nothing in football

...just as well for Staunton!!!

**zinedineontour** · 16/01/2006, 3:50 PM

why the **** should the lad resign ?? what were his choices ffs ? we didnt have the cash to appoint anyone else and its not that attractive a job to be honest ..

**zinedineontour** · 16/01/2006, 3:51 PM

ok so we have 45 deluded people voting so far ...

**Schumi** · 16/01/2006, 3:56 PM

Only 6 that I can see.

**klein4** · 16/01/2006, 3:57 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

Criticism of the process and Delaney is for free. The result of the process is stimulating examination of the process.
I doubt if there would be more than a few whispers about the process if O'Neill had accepted. He didn't.
As regards the process to find a new manager, a different process might well have come to the same conclusion.
The appointment is germane to the thread otherwise the process would not be up for discussion. It's the appointment which is the focus. If you have criticism about the process to find a new manager then outline an alternative. An opinion on the result of the process is germane.
Possible alternative process?
Kerr should have stayed.
Have a new manager in place before Kerr's contract runs out.
Appoint a respected legend or legends to find another manager.
Appoint a different manager from those available.
Wait longer for more candidates.
Any other?

must win an award for most use of the word "process" in the one post.

**geysir** · 16/01/2006, 3:57 PM

PP. Any ideas what you would consider to be a clear strategy for (HR?) recruitment and retention, vis-a-vis international football manager?
Where exactly did patronage and nepotism play a part of the FAI process to select a manager?

**Plastic Paddy** · 16/01/2006, 4:16 PM

You want some strategy consultancy, geysir? I'm happy to send you my day rates by PM. I'll even give you a ten per cent discount due to your "patronage" of foot.ie.

As for the other question, I've given my views clearly enough. I invite you to draw your own conclusions from here on.

PP

**geysir** · 16/01/2006, 4:54 PM

Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy

You want some strategy consultancy, geysir? I'm happy to send you my day rates by PM. I'll even give you a ten per cent discount due to your "patronage" of foot.ie.

As for the other question, I've given my views clearly enough. I invite you to draw your own conclusions from here on.

PP

As the strategy is germane to the most serious of footballing concerns, the football manager of the national team, surely financial gain would not come between us.

There is nothing in your first post about the process re nepotism and patronage.
The only hint of nepotism in relation to the process that could be inferred from your post is that Delaney was friendly with Stan therefore not in a position to appraise his merits objectively and inclined to nominate him for the job because of the (alleged) friendship.

**Schumi** · 16/01/2006, 5:07 PM

The nepotism referred to Delaney (whom this thread is about afaik) getting his job.

**superfrank** · 16/01/2006, 5:13 PM

I have little or no interest in the Irish national team anymore, however there is very little to do about Delaney being Chief Executive.

Personally the guy annoys me.