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    Quote Originally Posted by colster
    I think England are doing something similar with Eriksson and McClaren
    Not really. England doing something similar would involve making David Seaman manager and appointing Howard Wilkinson as his advisor!
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    Quote Originally Posted by macdermesser
    I wonder if Fran Rooney had kept his job how things would have panned out..
    Rooney wouldn't have had a say. No matter what position Delaney has at the FAI he seems to be part of the panel to appoint a new manager. How the hell can an accountant (I think that's what he is) be the main man in the hunt for the most important football job on the island? Off topic but Rooney brought my nephew and his friend into the dressing room after the Romania match where they got to chat with all the players from Roy Keane to Nicky Colgan. I can just imagine Delaney do such a thing. God I hate that man.

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    People, don't forget Staunton has a 100% record. He has never lost a game in his managerial career...
    Gimme dat

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    Quote Originally Posted by DubJohn
    People, don't forget Staunton has a 100% record. He has never lost a game in his managerial career...
    I think thats what swung it for him...
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    Quote Originally Posted by colster
    We can't afford a really successful manager.
    That much I agree. It's just that they raised expectations beforehand. My beef is more with the way this appointment has been handled and how it's come into the public domain. I'm also disappointed that the division of responsibility is purely the subject of speculation and it's made me nervous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete
    I think thats what swung it for him...
    The scary thing is that you've got a point! The big advantage Staunton has over all the other candidates is that he hasn't "failed" at any managerial job, i.e. failed to qualify/failed to win a league. This seems to be the view of Delaney et al - "How do we know Staunton isn't a tactical genius?"

    This seems to be a pretty common viewpoint and also explains why players like Elliot, McGeady, Doyle, Ireland, etc. are talked up so much. Keane and Morrisson get stick because we've actually seen them have bad games for Ireland whereas untried players are held up as potential saviours because they haven't proved otherwise.

    A prime example of this is John O'Shea who looked great until he actually started playing for Ireland. Other notables - Colin Healy, Stephen Reid, Davids Connolly and Kelly.
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    New talenst will always be talked up as not proven crap yet. On the other hand you have people like Connolly who are well proven as crap players.
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    Personally I think what swung it for Staunton was that Delaney had first hand experience of working & negotiating with him, especially in Japan where I suppose he admired the respect the other players (except one!) had for him and how he handled himself under pressure. Staunton was a prominent figure during the "Delaney era" if you like. I would guess that Delaney has probably never even met Aldridge etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete
    I think thats what swung it for him...

    He must have lied on his cv??

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    DELANEY IN RED HEAD SCANDAL

    According to a source in the FAI, John Delaney has offered the job to Steve Staunton because he’s a red head. A friend of Delaney’s said “John has always had a penchant for carrot tops and gets turned on by them”.

    At a recent conference on the price of football programmes in Ballygobackwards, the Daily Tits reported that Delaney said “I really like the colour red” and “I hope to appoint a manager soon. If he knows anything about football it will be a bonus”. Obviously the two are linked, the Daily Tits went on to say.

    A neighbour of Delaney’s said he recently saw Delaney out in his back garden wearing red shorts with a Walsall top while a friend of the neighbour’s friend said she heard another friend say that Delaney once said that he had a friend who liked Steve Staunton.

    A source close to the player said Delaney just wants to give the job to Staunton because he likes his legs while a contact at Ambre Solaire has suggested that Delaney and Staunton have tied up a contract with them since Staunton is an ideal subject for the product.

    Staunton and Delaney were unavailable for comment.

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    Nobody here can seriously say that for €750,000 we could not have landed a more experienced manager, what is the average premiership manager's wage, which I am sure is vastly inflated compared to continental manager's wages. It would obviously rule out the very top tier but I still think that it is a significant sum of money, in my opinion Staunton is being significantly overpaid.
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    i would like to repleat my sentiments on the other thread. Delaney has ****ed this up and has to go. Staunton is being used here and i feel for him.

    BTW, guess who is giving a talk at the Rovers 400 club AGM on Monday about his vision for Irish football?

    it could get very messy very fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
    A prime example of this is John O'Shea who looked great until he actually started playing for Ireland. Other notables - Colin Healy, Stephen Reid, Davids Connolly and Kelly.
    i will take a bet with any man on this forum that in a 10years time o;shea is regarded as one of the greats to have worn the green, he's coming on strides this season, looking very very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlooooomp
    Nobody here can seriously say that for €750,000 we could not have landed a more experienced manager, what is the average premiership manager's wage, which I am sure is vastly inflated compared to continental manager's wages. It would obviously rule out the very top tier but I still think that it is a significant sum of money, in my opinion Staunton is being significantly overpaid.
    If and it's still an if, Bobby Robson is appointed along with Stan we are getting more experience in World or European Football than we could buy with double that money in my opinion. The potential tactical input Robson will have, I feel is being grossly underrated. Robson has seen it all and done it all - winning trophies, nuturing thre finest world talent and handling the media. Most managers in the Premiership & Championship are earning 6 figures as are all in the top tiers of European Football - I think if Robson is included we've bought one heck of experience for the price we are paying and are getting Stan thrown in for free...!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by livehead1
    i will take a bet with any man on this forum that in a 10years time o;shea is regarded as one of the greats to have worn the green, he's coming on strides this season, looking very very good.
    are you a mentalist? how much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
    ....... I would guess that Delaney has probably never even met Aldridge etc.
    Probably didnt understand Aldo's scouse accent!
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    Quote Originally Posted by livehead1
    i will take a bet with any man on this forum that in a 10years time o;shea is regarded as one of the greats to have worn the green, he's coming on strides this season, looking very very good.
    Should have gone to SpecSavers!
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    I think some people are being totally disrespectful to Robson on the basis of his age. One earlier post particularly angered me but I couldn't be arsed looking for it again.

    What age was Rehagel when Greece won Euro 2004?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
    I think some people are being totally disrespectful to Robson on the basis of his age. One earlier post particularly angered me but I couldn't be arsed looking for it again.

    What age was Rehagel when Greece won Euro 2004?

    Rehagel - 67 during 2004 championships according to Google.

    Robson is 72, he will be 74/75 during the next championships, that's 8 years over Rehagel, quite a difference at that stage of life...
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    what was wrong with Venebales then ??? At least he has some experience. IF Stan messes up there will have to be a major clear out in the FAIlure association.

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