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    Any chance those voting "Other" would say who this mystery person who was available at the right price is?

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    Other - probably George Burley, or perhaps Hiddink. Tempted to say Troussier rather than wait until "Il Duce" Delaney decrees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu
    Any chance those voting "Other" would say who this mystery person who was available at the right price is?
    Brian Kerr. There I've said it.

    And it is relevant - Oscar Wilde made it clear when Kerr's contract was not renewed that he had a plan in mind to appoint a top-class manager with the necessary experience. Either he's a liar or he believed, at the time, that Stevie Staunton was among those with the qualifications to be that manager.
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    I would have liked Martin O Neill as my choice and then George Burley.

    I have also noticed something interesting. In the thread. ''Would you agree with Staunton as Irish Manager? A total of 24 people appeared to have voted yes for him and in in this Thread only 1. Just an observation thats all

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    ok, for the people that want Stuanton as the next boss... why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
    Brian Kerr. There I've said it.

    And it is relevant - Oscar Wilde made it clear when Kerr's contract was not renewed that he had a plan in mind to appoint a top-class manager with the necessary experience. Either he's a liar or he believed, at the time, that Stevie Staunton was among those with the qualifications to be that manager.
    I think to be fair to the artist currently referred to as Oscar Wilde, he's just a tool!. His entire FAI career and rise to the top has been getting even for those who shafted His Daddy and when he was in charge of his EL club he squandered the largest amount of money ever raised in Domestic sport from a share issue! Right Blues fans?

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    Other - though I am unsure of wh we could realistically attract to the job. Who is out of work at the moment with top level management experience:

    Ottmar Hitzfeld - Champions League * 2, German Leagues * 5
    Paul Le Guen - French League * 3 (I think)
    Didier Deschamps
    Giovanni Trapatonni - will be free after the summer
    Jupp Heynckes - what is he up to at the mo?


    Any more to add to the list?
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    Brian Kerr.


    I've heard such utter claptrap in this "limbo period" from people who know fck all about football or have any grasp of the bigger picture. Horsesh:t like that was the "easiest group ever" / "worst french team ever" / "we should easily beat the swiss and israelis everytime" shows the depth of how little people appreciate just how sh:t our national squad is in world terms.

    Brian kerr would do well in the necessary task of rebuilding. We are not a top class side with great players. We are bereft of options and are best players are either too old and past it (roy keane) or more committed to club (duff).


    Time for a reality check

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schlooooomp
    Other - though I am unsure of wh we could realistically attract to the job. Who is out of work at the moment with top level management experience:

    Ottmar Hitzfeld - Champions League * 2, German Leagues * 5
    Paul Le Guen - French League * 3 (I think)
    Didier Deschamps
    Giovanni Trapatonni - will be free after the summer
    Jupp Heynckes - what is he up to at the mo?


    Any more to add to the list?
    There is absolutely no way the FAI could afford their wages or that they would take the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wws
    Brian Kerr.


    I've heard such utter claptrap in this "limbo period" from people who know fck all about football or have any grasp of the bigger picture. Horsesh:t like that was the "easiest group ever" / "worst french team ever" / "we should easily beat the swiss and israelis everytime" shows the depth of how little people appreciate just how sh:t our national squad is in world terms.

    Brian kerr would do well in the necessary task of rebuilding. We are not a top class side with great players. We are bereft of options and are best players are either too old and past it (roy keane) or more committed to club (duff).


    Time for a reality check

    Can you honestly say that the team played to it's potential under Kerr when it mattered?
    The fact is that the team played in a straight jacket under Kerr. They lacked a killer instinct. How many times did we let a lead slip?
    There was no improvement from the time he took over.
    What makes you think that he's the man for the job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by colster
    There is absolutely no way the FAI could afford their wages or that they would take the job.
    I am just throwing those names out there, there are a lot of proven managers around and even if we were to get somebody part time, I think it would be sufficient for the Irish International tem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wws
    Brian Kerr.


    I've heard such utter claptrap in this "limbo period" from people who know fck all about football or have any grasp of the bigger picture. Horsesh:t like that was the "easiest group ever" / "worst french team ever" / "we should easily beat the swiss and israelis everytime" shows the depth of how little people appreciate just how sh:t our national squad is in world terms.

    Brian kerr would do well in the necessary task of rebuilding. We are not a top class side with great players. We are bereft of options and are best players are either too old and past it (roy keane) or more committed to club (duff).


    Time for a reality check
    We are just a middle of the road International team, however we are not always going to get a group like Kerr did, that as it plays out it gives us an excellent opportunity of qualifying. We were not just outside qualification because we matched a great french team, we didn't qualify because we ****ed up more than France or Switzerland. Kerr has to take some of the responsibility, not all of it.
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    we didnt qualify because we simply didnt have the players to beat switzerland israel or france. Plain and simple. We were very lucky even to beat Cyprus.


    The players were sh.t


    Thats football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wws
    we didnt qualify because we simply didnt have the players to beat switzerland israel or france. Plain and simple. We were very lucky even to beat Cyprus.


    The players were sh.t


    Thats football.
    At least the players can have a laugh and a few beers under Staunton. We mightnt get the results but at least we will have a team who enjoys the experience of linking up with the national team. they will go back to their clubs and a few english born players might like the sound of playing for ireland then. then we can at last get back to the glory years when we were the bast fans in the world and always brought a smile to tournaments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klein4
    At least the players can have a laugh and a few beers under Staunton.
    That's funny, I'm positive I shared a few drinks with some of the Irish players while on away trips under Brian Kerr's tenure.
    Also fairly certain that I saw pictures of a session in the Faroe Islands where the players seemed to be enjoying themselves.

    Funny thing about International football is that you're pretty much stuck with what you're given, where players are concerned.

    When players start acting up and not showing any commitment in games, the manager gets blamed and subsequently gets the boot because it's the easy option.

    If the players want International duty to be a session with the lads then we're back to the old days of moral victories against average teams.

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    interestingly VINNY JONES(of all ppl) was on a chat show on tv3 and when asked was he just lucky he said he was lucky to get the break at wimbledon but he really went for it because he wanted it and despite the public image never touched a drink for years so he could make it as a pro

    pros were pros back than

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    Quote Originally Posted by wws
    we didnt qualify because we simply didnt have the players to beat switzerland israel or france. Plain and simple. We were very lucky even to beat Cyprus.


    The players were sh.t


    Thats football.
    The players can and have played better. We can put out a team who all play regularly in the Premiership. Some of which have played in the Champions League and World Cup finals. Players who have won cups, Leagues and European trophies.
    We have the players to compete and qualify. The manager just couldn't get the best out of them?

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    The players can and have played better.

    some have. some never have and never will.

    We can put out a team who all play regularly in the Premiership.

    so what?

    Some of which have played in the Champions League and World Cup finals.

    again irrelevant. the attitude and hunger they display in the current match has nothing to do with a game they may have played 2/4/6 years ago


    We have the players to compete and qualify. The manager just couldn't get the best out of them?

    I'm afraid not - they consistently played poorly - some because they are basically poor internationals and others cause of attitude and lack of commitment - Brian Kerr didnt make them forget how to play football

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    Mick McCarthy showed after his first 2 campaigns which were just as successful/unsuccessful as Kerr's that you can improve a lot in your 3rd term. I think Kerr would definitely be a better option now than Staunton but Delaney didn't want Kerr and I'll reserve my judgement on the new appointment for a while. With the players we have coming through now I'd have liked to see how Kerr would do as the only players to come through during his time in charge was Andy Reid and Liam Miller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wws
    The players can and have played better.

    some have. some never have and never will.

    We can put out a team who all play regularly in the Premiership.

    so what?

    Some of which have played in the Champions League and World Cup finals.

    again irrelevant. the attitude and hunger they display in the current match has nothing to do with a game they may have played 2/4/6 years ago


    We have the players to compete and qualify. The manager just couldn't get the best out of them?

    I'm afraid not - they consistently played poorly - some because they are basically poor internationals and others cause of attitude and lack of commitment - Brian Kerr didnt make them forget how to play football
    I still think a lot of them can and will play better. I liked Kerr and was delighted when he got the job but for whatever reason the team didn't do much under him. There was no sign of improvement. There was no inkling that things were getting better. The press and fans were on his back. Whether the players let him down is irrelevant. It's not as if we can get in another set.
    His contract was at an end. It had to be decided was it worth giving him a new contract based on the above.
    People say the sacking of Kerr was a personal thing by Delaney but there were hardly any dissenting voices from within the FAI.

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