Staunton Ireland Manager?

**tetsujin1979** · 10/01/2006, 4:01 PM

There's an internet law that states that any sufficiently advanced thread on an internet forum will eventually mention Nazis/Hitler. The name of it escapes me (although it has been mentioned on foot.ie before) but I'd like to make an addition to it - any sufficiently advanced thread on Irish football will eventually mention Saipan and Roy Keane, no matter how long it's been since that incident.

**Stuttgart88** · 10/01/2006, 4:08 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

There's an internet law that states that any sufficiently advanced thread on an internet forum will eventually mention Nazis/Hitler.

You've just proven it.

**klein4** · 10/01/2006, 4:18 PM

yeah what is trolling?
good point made about aldridge earlier. The whole Saipan thing is a red herring. The main issue is the way the FAI run football in this country (what was the thinking behind the appointments and the decision to let kerr go, is there any clear strategy at play here?) and also how the top football job in this country has been downgraded to some sort of management school. We all hope they do well, but it will be sheer luck if they do. (and that isnt to cover myself in the event they do well, I just feel they are taking a massive gamble appointing an absolute novice)

**SunnySweeney** · 10/01/2006, 4:19 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

But silly comments bout where Staunton is from, his accent, the tone of his voice, his relationship with Roy Keane, or Bobby Robsons, age or mixing up players names, are silly comments which contribute little to intelligent debate.

I stand by my silly comments regarding Staunton and I have played football and have been listening to coaches all my life.

It is not about accent. I never mentioned that. It is about voice inflection, body language, how people percieve you and how you inspire them. It is very important and I am sorry but I don,t think the fella has got it ...

**elroy** · 10/01/2006, 4:21 PM

After Saipan I dont think we'll ever see a return to the amateurish set up that was evident in the Charlton days.

As for Stan and Robson, not my preferred appointment by any means. However, there isnt a huge variety of willing parties from what I can see. I think under Kerr there was an apparent lack of motivation amongst the players and I can understand their thinkin in bringing in someone to get that back. However my choice there would have being Aldridge not Stan.

I think Robson can be a valuable person to have on board however I really dont like this grey area of a partnership or director of football etc.

Whatever happens, Kerr had his time and in my opinion ended up producing a number of the most lacklustre Irish performances I've ever seen. To me the man was tactically inept when it mattered and I think whoever is appointed should be given a fair chance. We might not agree with the appointment but I dont care if he loses every friendly as long as we qualify for the Euros. For me the two main factors for an international manager (we prob could all pick Irelands best XI) is motivation and tactics. Hopefully Stan will bring back some much needed motivation to the squad and if he or Robson produces the tactics will remain to be seen.

**Jerry The Saint** · 10/01/2006, 4:24 PM

Originally Posted by gaf1983

Mark Kinsella is a more senior member of the coaching staff at Walsall than Staunton. I think staunton just works as defensive coach.

http://www.saddlers.premiumtv.co.uk/...,10428,00.html
(Stauntons name isnt even mentioned. He's obviously very highly regarded there! )

Fingers crossed this will just be a temporary appointment for say 6 months....

Here's something interesting - Walsall may be operating under some sort of salary cap at the moment. I read on a Walsall message board that both Staunton and Kinsella are paid exclusively out of the coaching budget, freeing up extra cash to spend on other players.

http://www.upthesaddlers.com/bb/view...c9810a0ea507d3 (See second post from acuman about halfway down)

So it may be the case that not only is Staunton neither a manager nor assistant manager but whatever coaching role Merson gave him may well be a purely notional role that has the sole purpose of enabling some creative accounting.

(allegedly)

**finn** · 10/01/2006, 4:30 PM

see under T for Trolling

http://4umi.com/web/glossary.htm

**klein4** · 10/01/2006, 4:45 PM

mmmmmmmmmm.....bit dubious...... maybe we need a group hug icon for the more "sensitive" posters...

**pete** · 10/01/2006, 4:48 PM

Moderator Please stay on topic folks. See thread title.

**klein4** · 10/01/2006, 4:58 PM

sorry that trolling thing and what it meant was driving me nuts.
and I just wanted to see if that guy would come back with a group hug icon....

**Tired&Emotional** · 10/01/2006, 4:58 PM

http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/0110/ireland.html

Back room staff on the way....don't know much about him other than waht's on RTE, anyone else?

Interesting to see (after the discussion on Staunton's "assistant manager" position re reports on BBC and SKY) RTE have him down as "coach" (prev they reported AM)....he's going backwards already!

**Jerry The Saint** · 10/01/2006, 5:06 PM

Originally Posted by Tired&Emotional

http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/0110/ireland.html

Back room staff on the way....don't know much about him other than waht's on RTE, anyone else?

Interesting to see (after the discussion on Staunton's "assistant manager" position re reports on BBC and SKY) RTE have him down as "coach" (prev they reported AM)....he's going backwards already!

This just gets stranger and stranger - we're going to employ an "Assistant Mentor" now

Surely Staunton will be allowed to bring in some of his own backroom staff (e.g. Kinsella - his coaching superior at Walsall...

)

**colster** · 10/01/2006, 5:07 PM

Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint

This just gets stranger and stranger - we're going to employ an "Assistant Mentor" now

Surely Staunton will be allowed to bring in some of his own backroom staff (e.g. Kinsella - his coaching superior at Walsall...

)

Or maybe it shows that Robson is actually the man in charge and Staunton is a junior partner.

**Tired&Emotional** · 10/01/2006, 5:08 PM

No i think the AM/coach position refers to Walsall....some might say it's bad enough getting the AM at Walsall as Irish Manager but now it turns out he's only a coach there, no??

Sorry - wasn't clear on original post

**Peadar** · 10/01/2006, 5:09 PM

Originally Posted by klein4

I just wanted to see if that guy would come back with a group hug icon....

This is the best I can do...
Also added in one for Mr. Moderator, Pete.

**Den Perry** · 10/01/2006, 5:11 PM

Maybe it will be Venables and Staunton after all and my bet will be saved

**geysir** · 10/01/2006, 5:16 PM

Originally Posted by NeilMcD

I think this is a huge gamble as we dont know how good Staunton will be as a manager. But it could work but its like the guy going into Paddy Power at the start of the season and betting on Alonso Scoring from his own half. Surely the appointment of an international manager should be more based on Science rather than luck. However Maybe we need a lucky general after Brian Kerr. I will be in full support of the Irish team, which I would have found hard to do under Verry Tenables.

If only there was a science for the managerial formula, (time/place/ person& team??)
It is a gamble but not a huge gamble.
Of all our ex players who were in a position to take the role imo he is the best suited with temperment, leadership, respect from the players.wide playing career.
Very little coaching experience with a 3rd level club. but going into the job with the most experienced and well respected coaches in the game.
I can take that unknown and prefer it eg to the unknown 9 month no mans land waiting for answers that Kerr did not even know what were the questions to. Like Kerr, Staunton will put every ounce of his energy into it.

**Peadar** · 10/01/2006, 5:21 PM

Found some more for you, klein4.

**geysir** · 10/01/2006, 5:23 PM

Originally Posted by colster

Or maybe it shows that Robson is actually the man in charge and Staunton is a junior partner.

Exactly my thought, Stan is dropping back a place in rank of seniority and influence already.

**Den Perry** · 10/01/2006, 5:38 PM

was just looking at the "who would we have preferred poll" and see a bit of support for Aldridge? Once again I ask how could he have been a good choice? Fired from Tranmere not a very good point on the CV. I suppose its academic now. Looks like we're stuck with what we have