Sadly, you're wrong on both counts. 'After the Goldrush' came out before 'Harvest', and I would guess there was a couple of earlier ones too.Originally Posted by klein4
Van Morrison's debut (after a quick google) was 'Blowin' your mind'
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correct, neil young released a solo self titled album before either of these two which included the classic song the old laughing lady. he also had an album with crazy horse after that called everybody knows this is nowhere and then relased the two you mention.
at least Damien Nice's bass player appears to have had the foresight to tune the fcuker up before putting his tracks down.
(I can't believe I'm defending DRs p|ssyknickers dirgeWhat next? me nominating 'Take That And Party'?)
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
no I'm right as per van himself.
I stand corrected. As I said, it was just a quick google. On further reading, I see what you mean.
In saying that, and I know it always tops polls, I've never listened to it.
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one or two other overlooked ones..
Portishead 'Dummy' - astonishing debut...
Kings of Leon 'Youth and Young Manhood'
'Fascists dress in black and go round telling people what to do, where as priests.....'
Illmatic by Nas or Funeral by the Arcade Fire.
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what, no "Free Your Mind...And Your A$$ Will Follow"??
Most of these have been mentioned at some point on this remarkably tastelful thread!
The Smiths - The Smiths
Psychocandy - JAMC
The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
Isn't Anything - My Bloody Valentine
Qualty Control - Jurassic 5
The Clash - The Clash
George Best - The Wedding Present
Inflamable Material - Stiff Little Fingers
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I've got those empty pockets and I can't afford a beer.
Forgot about that one would definitely make my list too.
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Stand corrected; was 'Ecstacy and Wine' My Bloody Valentine's first album then?
Oh yeah Rage Against the Machine's first album is superb
Where am I now? I'm over here,
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Yes, although some songs are actually quite good even (I'll Be Your Mirror somehow floats my boat a lot, despite the fact that the vocals could have been better)Good call on both albums Gerrit. The Smiths in particular marked a sea-change in British alternative music at that time and they certainly had an impact at the time on one then-spotty teenager I can think of...
Truth? As a musical work it was a pile of toss. The best thing about that album was the cover. I take your point about what it stood to represent though.
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I'd say psychedelics started off with the Velvets and of course The Doors. Not a Doors fan myself (but definitely not a disliker, I appreciate some of their work myself) but they were probably the first alternative band to really rise in mainstream sight.
I am also honest enough to admit that my favourite band Echo & The Bunnymen would have probably never sounded they way they sound if it wasn't for the inspiration they gor from Lou Reed and The Doors.
As for The Smiths: legendary band with one of the most brilliant lyricists of all time. The more I hear their music, the more great I seem to find it. Such a shame that stubbornness will probably always prevend them from regrouping. Mike Joyce now selling Smiths memorabilia on eBay without asking Moz and Marr, will also not really benefit the slim chances of a Smiths reunion.
Definitely needs to be mentioned indeed.
I would say as well, in terms of influence on a whole style of music: The Dammed's first record set the tone for the sound of punk as it still is 30 years after its release. Songs like Smash It Up and New Rose are still the perfect representation of how true (original) punk sounded.
Gerrit, I agree with you about the Smiths, but, and without taking sides, it's a little more than mere stubbornness that's preventing them from reforming:
Morrissey statement
Pat O', This is your bloody valentine was released a couple of years before loveless.
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Good God, that Mr. Joyce likes his money
Debut albums can I add:
Husker Du - Metal Circus
Pixies - Come on Pilgrim
2Pac - 2Pacalypse Now (Granted, maybe not an all time great)
My favourite!
I meant 2pacalypse now for that "Maybe not an all time great" reference
Come on Pilgrim is absolute malevolant genius from start to finish and quite possibly changed my life
Is Come on Pilgrim officially an e.p., and Surfer Rosa their debut.
Either way, the Pixies debut is quite good.
NeilMcD, Fuzzy was one of my college-years albums. I havent heard it in a long time. Must dig it out.
one more:
Inspiral Carpets - Life
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Though I stand over my contention that the Housemartins London Nil Hull Four is the finest debut ever by anyone ....I'll chuck in The Wonderstuffs Eight Legged Groove Machine and Teenage Fanclubs Bandwagonesque for an honourable mention.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
I hate to seem like I'm coming on here correcting everyone, but I thought you, Lionel, would be well aware of A Catholic Education.
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