Pat Devlin Advisor/Scout/Agent/Manager Thread

**Roo69** · 06/01/2006, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by tiktok

I thought Devlin WASN'T involved

Your facts did not come direct from the people involved ffs, that's completely obvious, you are spinning bullsh!t regarding Liam Kearney's contract, and your claim that this was a rumour started to deflect attention from the club is ridiculous, I'd love to know what people directly involved told you this.

Did i say i was talking to Devlin ? No point in trying to put words in my mouth or to try and make it out ive said stuff that i actually have'nt. You see thats the whole problem here, people beliving things without actually having any real proof or facts. Listen, why would i try to spinj bull**** about another clubs players contract ? i have no reason to what so ever ! i replyed to this post trying to clear the facts up but yet Cork fans still think Devlin had something to do with this when he actually did'nt.

Originally Posted by tiktok

and as I said before, if that IS true, Bray should take action.
I love the way as you're getting more defensive, Rico's crimes increase

It all sounds to me a bit like "this was a story set up to try and deflect pressure away from...."

Yeah we should try take action against Rico, but as with everything in this league, nothing ever gets done and Rico or any other manager who will attepmt this will not get punished, so whats the point in waisting our time and money ?

**tiktok** · 06/01/2006, 1:16 PM

Originally Posted by Roo69

Listen, why would i try to spinj bull**** about another clubs players contract ?

To defend your mate Devlin, your motives are quite obvious.

So obviously you were talking to Grogan as that's the only other person I can see you having any access to, yeah?

Well, if he did tell you what you posted above w.r.t. Kearney's contract then he lied to you, so I don't see why I should take your (his) word on Devlin seriously when I know for a fact that there is a complete lie (passed as 100% fact) in what you wrote.

So you see, in your post, I know you were spinning bullsh!t, I just don't know whether some of it or all of it was.

**Roo69** · 06/01/2006, 1:30 PM

Originally Posted by tiktok

To defend your mate Devlin, your motives are quite obvious.

So obviously you were talking to Grogan as that's the only other person I can see you having any access to, yeah?

Well, if he did tell you what you posted above w.r.t. Kearney's contract then he lied to you, so I don't see why I should take your (his) word on Devlin seriously when I know for a fact that there is a complete lie (passed as 100% fact) in what you wrote.

So you see, in your post, I know you were spinning bullsh!t, I just don't know whether some of it or all of it was.

Ha ha ha ha ha my mate, priceless !

I'll say what i said in my last post - "You see thats the whole problem here, people beliving things without actually having any real proof or facts. Listen, why would i try to spin bull**** about another clubs players contract ? i have no reason to what so ever ! i replyed to this post trying to clear the facts up but yet Cork fans still think Devlin had something to do with this when he actually did'nt."

The simple matter is that Devlin had nothing to do with this what so ever, but Cork fans and you in particular just can't accept the fact that your wrong about this one.....

**tiktok** · 06/01/2006, 1:41 PM

Originally Posted by Roo69

The simple matter is that Devlin had nothing to do with this what so ever, but Cork fans and you in particular just can't accept the fact that your wrong about this one.....

I don't like Devlin, I haven't in years, but if he was 100% not involved with either Kearney and O'Flynn, I'll admit it.

I put your post from here on our official site to get feedback on your side of it, to see if anyone would confirm or deny.

My problem is that I know for a 100% fact that portions of what you countered with is completely wrong, so why should I be willing to accept a paragraph of explanation from you when I know the first half to be incorrect.

It's all well and good to say you have a 'source' or you got it from the 'horse's mouth', but if you're only writing up what you were told, then I know for a fact that you were lied to about half of what you wrote.

You can call me 'mate' and condescend to me all day long Roo, but when I know half of what you wrote is false, then why should I stretch to believe the other half when people I've know for years and trust are telling me the complete opposite.

**Roo69** · 06/01/2006, 1:44 PM

Originally Posted by tiktok

I don't like Devlin, I haven't in years, but if he was 100% not involved with either Kearney and O'Flynn, I'll admit it.

I put your post from here on our official site to get feedback on your side of it, to see if anyone would confirm or deny.

My problem is that I know for a 100% fact that portions of what you countered with is completely wrong, so why should I be willing to accept a paragraph of explanation from you when I know the first half to be incorrect.

It's all well and good to say you have a 'source' or you got it from the 'horse's mouth', but if you're only writing up what you were told, then I know for a fact that you were lied to about half of what you wrote.

You can call me 'mate' and condescend to me all day long Roo, but when I know half of what you wrote is false, then why should I stretch to believe the other half when people I've know for years and trust are telling me the complete opposite.

you see thats what this is all down to............ peoples personal dislike for a man they have probably never meet, and not that he had nothing to do with this....

I never once called you mate, i don't know you so why would i call you that ? i was refering to "To defend your mate Devlin, your motives are quite obvious" i was laughing that you think myself and Devo are mates.

**tiktok** · 06/01/2006, 1:52 PM

Originally Posted by Roo69

you see thats what this is all down to............ peoples personal dislike for a man they have probably never meet, and not that he had nothing to do with this.....

I'll dislike him one way or the other, but if he's got nothing to do with this I'll admit it. My personal feelings for him are irrelevant, I dislike Pat Dolan but when people claimed he was involved in the Kearney transfer I defended him because I knew it not to be the case.

You've completely ignored the points I've been making though, so for the last time, why should I believe the second part of your theory, when i know that the first half is false?

Originally Posted by Roo69

I never once called you mate, i don't know you so why would i call you that ? i was refering to "To defend your mate Devlin, your motives are quite obvious" i was laughing that you think myself and Devo are mates.

Apologies, I read that wrong, missed the 'my' part

**Roo69** · 06/01/2006, 3:00 PM

Originally Posted by tiktok

I'll dislike him one way or the other, but if he's got nothing to do with this I'll admit it. My personal feelings for him are irrelevant, I dislike Pat Dolan but when people claimed he was involved in the Kearney transfer I defended him because I knew it not to be the case.

You've completely ignored the points I've been making though, so for the last time, why should I believe the second part of your theory, when i know that the first half is false?

Apologies, I read that wrong, missed the 'my' part

You defended Dolan because you knew he was'nt involved, i did the very same thing about Devo, because i know his not involved.

I have'nt ignored your points at all, it's not a theroy, it's what ive been told and i would always trust my very reliable sources and contacts...... They have never let me down before so why should i disbelieve them now ? because a few Cork fans are up in arms over a fabricated lie ? me thinks not......

**KK77** · 06/01/2006, 3:29 PM

You'll probably find the horse's mouth is Jack O'Neill!!!!!!

**Roo69** · 06/01/2006, 3:36 PM

Originally Posted by Rafa B

You'll probably find the horse's mouth is Jack O'Neill!!!!!!

No not at all, you are completely 100% wrong

Not even close actually

**�anna** · 06/01/2006, 5:32 PM

2 things Roo:
1. Kearney was not offered less than what he was on, he was offered more, but he wasn't happy with the offer.
2. Devlin WAS involved with Kearney. That is absolute fact. To what extent I don't know, but I do know that the grubby little knacker was involved.

**Colm** · 06/01/2006, 5:38 PM

Originally Posted by �anna

2 things Roo:
1. Kearney was not offered less than what he was on, he was offered more, but he wasn't happy with the offer.
2. Devlin WAS involved with Kearney. That is absolute fact. To what extent I don't know, but I do know that the grubby little knacker was involved.

I believe Eanna 100% on this and it's not the only source I've heard it from either.

Roo, as I said, the offer Kearney was made was not great but I know for a fact (i.e. Liam told me) that it was an increase on what he was already on so if you're lying about that I'm certain that either you're lying about Devlin too ot your source has used you to spin a story for them on here.

**Schumi** · 06/01/2006, 6:13 PM

Originally Posted by tiktok

and as I said before, if that IS true, Bray should take action.

Would probably do them more harm than good to highlight the issue.

**A face** · 06/01/2006, 6:25 PM

Originally Posted by tiktok

It all sounds to me a bit like "this was a story set up to try and deflect pressure away from...."

I believe they call it 'chaff' !!

**tiktok** · 09/01/2006, 7:46 AM

Originally Posted by Roo69

I have'nt ignored your points at all, it's not a theroy, it's what ive been told and i would always trust my very reliable sources and contacts...... They have never let me down before so why should i disbelieve them now ?

I guess that's where we'll have to leave it Roo, because I know for a fact that they've lied to you at least once with respect to Kearney's contract, so while you might trust them on the Devlin issue, I certainly don't.

**Macy** · 09/01/2006, 8:25 AM

Have any facts been put by either side, although I'm not sure how Devlin can prove a negative, time for the Cork accussers to put up or shut up, imo.

Christ one side's hearsay has to be taken as gospel, the other sides hearsay isn't true.

**KK77** · 09/01/2006, 8:38 AM

Originally Posted by Roo69

No not at all, you are completely 100% wrong

Not even close actually

Which means it was so!!!!!

**tiktok** · 09/01/2006, 8:46 AM

Originally Posted by Macy

Christ one side's hearsay has to be taken as gospel, the other sides hearsay isn't true.

That's a bit unfair on Roo, he's been told a story by people he trusts and he believes it to be gospel, it's obvious he's going to think the exact opposite position is untrue.

**Roo69** · 09/01/2006, 9:08 AM

Originally Posted by Rafa B

Which means it was so!!!!!

Is it really ?

I'm a little

for ya really being so wrong, but it's great to have your much valued input yet again on various Bray issues, keep up the good posting

**KK77** · 09/01/2006, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Roo69

Is it really ?

I'm a little

for ya really being so wrong, but it's great to have your much valued input yet again on various Bray issues, keep up the good posting

Aaah well sure over 30 years of following the team entitles me to the odd opinion unlike some hey!!!!!!

**Roo69** · 09/01/2006, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Rafa B

Aaah well sure over 30 years of following the team entitles me to the odd opinion unlike some hey!!!!!!

So you were following them for 9 or so years before they were in the league or ireland ?

And in fairness, it's hard to follow them for that period of time whena lot of us would'nt be even thyat old !

As i said, great to have a poster with such wise words