27th January - ideal draw for trips

[NeilMcD]

I agree one nill. I think you have hit the nail on the end. There were a couple of scumbags esp a guy with red hair who was slagging all the lads for been students and that he was paying their taxes etc. He was a complete knobhead. I think its exactly how you put it though. That people get frustrated that not everybody around them cares as much as they do. Thats why I suppose some people prefer the smaller trips as then everybody is there for the football during the game.

However the lads that were asked to sit down (which is a load of rubbish as I think you should stand and sing for the whole game) are not entirely blameless in all of this. They were having full blown conversations about things which were totally unrelated to the match during the game. I know a few people that moved due to this as it was putting them off.

However I will stress the biggest culprits in my view was the guy with red hair and in a pair of shorts and a t shirt who was asking the guys to sit down and brought up the student rubbish.

[NY Hoop]

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NY Hoop's attitude sounds worse than the bandwagon jumper TBH Ye can deal with someone coming along for the ride but those snobby type fans who only want the ball for themselves...well screw em....

Complete and utter ******** there pal. How is wanting a great trip snobbery?

****holes like Armenia, Moldova etc would be super trips because there wouldnt be many there. Whats the reason you go on holidays? TO GET AWAY.

Hence games like Cyprus away the last time were dreadful because you have more than 10,000 Irish away. Its not rocket science.

One of the lads with us in Finland said that trip was better than the World Cup and I had to agree.

Think Slovakia will be good especially if its mid week.

KOH

[lopez]

...We can bring 10,000 to Cyprus but cant string two passes together and 3 quarters of are fans couldn't give a bol!ox either way? So youv'e got the idiots who don't give a sh!t about the game talking over it about soemthin they did last week and you've got the fan who cares, who cant believe theres an idiot talkin over the game and cant believe how bad we were playing...

This sort of crack has been going on at Lansdowne Road since 1990. A mate of mine from Clare was sitting in front of a Biddy doing her knitting and not taking a blind bit of notice of the game during the 1994 World Cup campaign.

[NeilMcD]

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NY Hoop's attitude sounds worse than the bandwagon jumper TBH Ye can deal with someone coming along for the ride but those snobby type fans who only want the ball for themselves...well screw em....

Complete and utter ******** there pal. How is wanting a great trip snobbery?

****holes like Armenia, Moldova etc would be super trips because there wouldnt be many there. Whats the reason you go on holidays? TO GET AWAY.

Hence games like Cyprus away the last time were dreadful because you have more than 10,000 Irish away. Its not rocket science.

One of the lads with us in Finland said that trip was better than the World Cup and I had to agree.

Think Slovakia will be good especially if its mid week.

KOH

I can see where u are coming from in that people who go to every trip have more respect for other fans and they dont tell people to shut up or sit down etc. However if you are trying to avoid Irish people I would recommend not going on trips to see the Irish football team play.

[NY Hoop]

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I can see where u are coming from in that people who go to every trip have more respect for other fans and they dont tell people to shut up or sit down etc. However if you are trying to avoid Irish people I would recommend not going on trips to see the Irish football team play.

Yet again missing the point. I'm not trying to avoid Irish people. More fun when there's a few hundred Irish around rather than ten thousand...........

KOH

[Paulie]

Lads, I wasn't in Cyprus but from reading a lot of the posts in this thread, it would appear that there was some tension amongst the Irish fans out there. Its obvious that a large portion of "fans" just went out for the holiday and had little interest in the football (i.e. on the bandwagon).

However, I was just wondering what type of fans were annoying ye? Was it big-shots or scum-bags or just people with no interest?
BTW, I'm serious. I'd just like to know why a number of the users on this forum were so disgusted with the sections of the travelling party to Cyprus.

There were a couple of things on the Cyprus trip which really p*ssed me off. I was based in Ayia Napa for the 3 nights. An Irish bar there was arranging coaches out to the game so we ended up travelling with them. There were a couple of lads on that coach who were out and out scumbags. They were the kind that couldn't have a conversation with each other, it had to be with the entire coach, they thought that they were being funny but they were anything but. Every second word was an expletive. I don't normally have a problem with this , generally I use pretty colourful language myself but there was a Scottish family who were travelling out to the game as well that were only sitting 2 or 3 seats up from them. One of the kids was only about 9 or 10 years old and should not have had to listen to this. When passing an English bar the English people that were standing there waving us off were greeted by the sight of these two idiots mooning them. This is exactly the kind of behaviour that we'd pass off with comments like "sure what can you expect, it's the English", if this happened the other way around. To cap it all off on the return journey these same guys were sitting in the back of the coach snorting lines of cocaine. They obviously were not broadcasting this but myself and my mate sat in separate seats on the journey back and for his sins he was at the back of the bus with these guys. He couldn't believe it and neither could I when he told me.

I'd say that these guys had about as much interest in the match as I do in ballet.

[pineapple stu]

I know a few people that moved due to this as it was putting them off.

This must be the stupidest thing I've read on this forum! Loud (I'll admit; alcohol didn't help) talk put people off?! Put them off what?! Sitting quietly appreciating the game?! Moaning rather than getting behind the team?!

[NeilMcD]

There is a double standard here. It was the fact that people were talking loudly about many things other than football. I can understand where they are coming from. They were concentrating on the game singing and getting behind their team. It can be distracting if people are gossiping behind them.

[pineapple stu]

They were concentrating on the game singing and getting behind their team.

Who were? I didn't hear anyone.

[NeilMcD]

I was singing and supporting my team throughout the game. Are trying to say you were the only supporters behaving correctly at the game and everybody did not fit into your rules. I am just saying that there are 2 sides to every story. I agree the guy with the red hair was a gob****e and his argument about students was pathetic and showed him up as the cave man that he was.

[onenilgameover]

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NY Hoop's attitude sounds worse than the bandwagon jumper TBH Ye can deal with someone coming along for the ride but those snobby type fans who only want the ball for themselves...well screw em....

Complete and utter ******** there pal. How is wanting a great trip snobbery?

****holes like Armenia, Moldova etc would be super trips because there wouldnt be many there. Whats the reason you go on holidays? TO GET AWAY.

Hence games like Cyprus away the last time were dreadful because you have more than 10,000 Irish away. Its not rocket science.

One of the lads with us in Finland said that trip was better than the World Cup and I had to agree.

Think Slovakia will be good especially if its mid week.

KOH

Look if ye prefer the smaller away trips fair enough and I can see where your coming from and can see why your annoyed by the likes of Cyprus as I have outlined I was ****ed off by the same lark. But puttin a downer on these trips and saying stuff like Cardiff and and Prague will be full of olers ****es people off that look forward for years to these trips. Ye make do with what ye can and it sounds like if the chip on your shoulder was smaller you'd have more fun. Creating this divide between the real fan v olers is only making things worse. Personally I hope we bring as much (and not just numbers) as the Norn Irish did to Cardiff...and Prague wont be like Cyprus. Cyprus appealed to the loser scumbag cocaine sniffin idiot irish fan who likes a bit of sun. Prague wont do that.

[nedder]

I was singing and supporting my team throughout the game. Are trying to say you were the only supporters behaving correctly at the game and everybody did not fit into your rules. I am just saying that there are 2 sides to every story. I agree the guy with the red hair was a gob****e and his argument about students was pathetic and showed him up as the cave man that he was.

Same here, happenened to be in front of a few scumbags though, who refused to get behind the team, who were calling O'Shea a F**ckin cripple, Given a w~~nker, and basically abusing every non dub on the team !!
Eventually i turned around and asked them why did they go to all this effort to come here to abuse our own players? i was told i can sing along with the ole ole's and they can do what they want ( in nicer language!)
On the other side of it, there were lots around me who were clearly there for the week in the sun and had no real interest in football. Funnily enough, these people annoyed me less!

[NY Hoop]

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Look if ye prefer the smaller away trips fair enough and I can see where your coming from and can see why your annoyed by the likes of Cyprus as I have outlined I was ****ed off by the same lark. But puttin a downer on these trips and saying stuff like Cardiff and and Prague will be full of olers ****es people off that look forward for years to these trips. Ye make do with what ye can and it sounds like if the chip on your shoulder was smaller you'd have more fun. Creating this divide between the real fan v olers is only making things worse. Personally I hope we bring as much (and not just numbers) as the Norn Irish did to Cardiff...and Prague wont be like Cyprus. Cyprus appealed to the loser scumbag cocaine sniffin idiot irish fan who likes a bit of sun. Prague wont do that.

As pointed out repeatedly I'm not a football "snob"and I dont have a chip on any shoulder. How hard is that to understand? I just prefer the smaller trips.

KOH

[zinedineontour]

In my experience, the games that are hard to get ticks for are the weekend games. That's where the bandwagon jumpers come out. The exception to this was the Macedonia game of 1999. Here I have to defend NYHoop. I agree with him, although I don't like dumps like Macedonia etc. However, where were the 'fans' here? As a weekend it cost less than a trip to say Sweden (especially if you get drunk, but don't fall asleep in a park and get robbed as I did). This was a key game that we were seconds from travelling to Euro 2000. Our support was made up of die-hards, Irish soldiers, their workmates in KFOR and a load of Military Police that certain lads managed to get mixed up with the 1st Battalion of the Parachute Regiment. Anyway, should be alright for Prague if the game is midweek (remember Basle 2). Keep the Germans (and the Cypriots) for the weekend w*nkers.

It's not a case of keeping it to ourselves. As stated not everyone can get to every game. But if you're going for the experience, not because you have other pressing financial commitments then as Sr. Espana says in more politer terms, join the f*cking back of the queue. And don't ask to see my passport just cos I have a ticket (as some other w*nker did in Basle 03).

thought macedonia was great trip good crack for the weekend and wasnt a bad city at all .. apart from the beggar children ... Basle 03 was the worst ever for tickets I was just lucky to get tickets in the swiss end so the swiss nackers could poke their little flags in my eye ! Do agree that the smaller trips are the best crack though the atmosphere in Paris was something else when you watched the program on brian kerr you could see how much it meant to him and the french national anthem was priceless.

What im saying is those that just go to these big games should not be condemned cause theres *****s on all the trips big and small ... delighted with the draw though thinking of giving prague a miss cause wont get a ticket id say ..