O'Donoghue murder case - Verdict in

**Block G Raptor** · 15/12/2005, 8:20 AM

Originally Posted by Peadar

Making reference to Ian Huntley is very irresponsible given that the only similarity between the cases is that young life was taken.

ok may have not come across as intended! what I meant that to me the Headlock story sounded untrue. my view on this has changed now

Originally Posted by Peadar

You make the assertion that my head is stuck in my hole, but I clearly have a far more objective view that someone with their head stuck in the Sunday World.

Yeah And there's more Sh!t in the sw

the reason I mentioned the rag was because it did ask some of the questions that I have been asking myself since the start of the trial
and at the time of the killing

**Eire06** · 15/12/2005, 8:23 AM

What sentence would be a suitable punishment in this case..

I hope he doesn't get 2 or 3 years and then gets out and its totally forgotten about!!

He still took a life, even though it has been judged as not premeditated he still strangled him till he died and then put Roberts family through hell searching for the body. 8-10 years minimum is deserved IMO

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Peadar I nominated you for post of the month for this gem

Originally Posted by Peadar

You make the assertion that my head is stuck in my hole, but I clearly have a far more objective view that someone with their head stuck in the Sunday World.

**Block G Raptor** · 15/12/2005, 8:27 AM

Originally Posted by Eire06

What sentence would be a suitable punishment in this case..

I hope he doesn't get 2 or 3 years and then gets out and its totally forgotten about!!

He still took a life, even though it has been judged as not premeditated he still strangled him till he died and then put Roberts family through hell searching for the body. 8-10 years minimum is deserved IMO

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Peadar I nominated you for post of the month for this gem

8-10 is about right IMO

yeah I've nominated that too. class! (2nd month in a row I've nominated a post that was ripping the p!ss out of me)

**tiktok** · 15/12/2005, 8:52 AM

Just passed today's Star in the canteen at Work.

There's two photographs of Wayne O'Donoghue, one from yesterday and the other taken at the time of the search for Robert Hoolahan, the huge tagline is "Two Faced Killer"

I don't by the Star for a very specific reason, I won't be changing my mind now.

**finlma** · 15/12/2005, 8:55 AM

Originally Posted by Eire06

8-10 years minimum is deserved IMO

Thats a bit harsh. What Padhraic Nally did was much worse IMO and he got 6 years. O'Donoghue has already served 1 year - another year on top of that would be enough punishment I think.

**Peadar** · 15/12/2005, 9:03 AM

Originally Posted by tiktok

I don't by the Star for a very specific reason, I won't be changing my mind now.

Sure the Star and the Sunday World are the same people, aren't they?
Says it all really.

**Eire06** · 15/12/2005, 9:50 AM

Originally Posted by finlma

Thats a bit harsh. What Padhraic Nally did was much worse IMO and he got 6 years. O'Donoghue has already served 1 year - another year on top of that would be enough punishment I think.

I think Nally should have got much longer than 6 years as well our legal system is far to lenient on people.
It is a disgrace..
So your saying 2 years in Jail is an ok sentance for a man who killed a young boy by strangling him!!! Yes it has been found that it was not premeditated but he assulted the boy which resulted in the death of Robert.

This country is gone mad! And you're a prime example, People should be made responsible for their actions and not be alowed to get away with murder/Manslaughter

**finlma** · 15/12/2005, 9:56 AM

Originally Posted by Eire06

This country is gone mad! And you're a prime example, People should be made responsible for their actions and not be alowed to get away with murder/Manslaughter

I'm not that mad Eire06 but what good is keeping O'Donoghue in prison going to do. I think he's learnt his lesson and is not going to re-offend.

As for people being held responsible for their actions I couldn't agree more.A person I know was assaulted and raped on Friday night in Kilkenny (it was mentioned on Crimeline) but I doubt the person who did it will be caught. Seems to be happening a lot around Ireland. Even if they are caught these people don't get long enough sentences.

**paul_oshea** · 15/12/2005, 10:02 AM

This country is gone mad! And you're a prime example, People should be made responsible for their actions and not be alowed to get away with murder/Manslaughter

finma, just quickly i dont think you should be saying the second part on foot.ie but anyhow.

this country has gone mad in terms of murder/rape, ones a life is gone, another life should too, well the freedom of that life anyhow. i just dont understand it, especially in the case of premeditated murder. i mean these drug dealers/assasins, thats what they are, should never be released, but the reality is the barristers/judges arent living in the same world as we do, they live in the plush nice areas of dublin/cork away from the reality that is modern day ireland. If they were to experience some of these things themselves they would have a completely different view.

if someone is raped and a guy gets 4 years its ridiculous, that woman/man has to live the rest of their lives with this, in fear, emotinally scarred and probably unstable for the rest of their lives. yet this guy gets a new "lease" of life after 4 years, i just cant understand it, especially if its a woman passing sentence on a woman who has been raped. and the judges set the laws, so dont come back saying they can only hand down so much etc because thats what the law states, change the fooken law, its in their hands.

and another thing, concurrency fook that, the biggest joke of all, each sentence should be served separately i.e. additonally

**Eire06** · 15/12/2005, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by finlma

I'm not that mad Eire06 but what good is keeping O'Donoghue in prison going to do. I think he's learnt his lesson and is not going to re-offend.

As for people being held responsible for their actions I couldn't agree more. My sister's best friend was assaulted and raped on Friday night in Kilkenny (it was mentioned on Crimeline) but I doubt the person who did it will be caught. Seems to be happening a lot around Ireland. Even if they are caught these people don't get long enough sentences.

I think he should pay for what he did and 2 years isn't long enough.. Ya he may have 'learned his lesson' thats fine but he needs to be punished and taking 10 years of his life is a small price to pay for him taking a whole life time from someone else..

Sorry to hear about your sisters friend but try and be hopeful that he will be caught.. There was a very serious assault on a woman in Galway city but the community worked together with the Gardaí and the rapist has been caught and is now in custody awaiting a trial. Hopefully our legal system will lock him up for a very long time (He has admitted his Guilt)....

**Thunderblaster** · 15/12/2005, 11:57 PM

It is definitely not normal for a kid to be in a neighbour's house at 7:32 am taking pictures of a poster in a bedroom. Was it a sleepover? There was an obvious relationship between Wayne O'Donoghue and the Holohan family, particularly Robert. Given Robert's highlighted conditions, it seemed that one would have needed patience to be with Robert and Wayne O'Donoghue should have known how to deal with Robert better. It was a tragic case that gripped the country, but Wayne IMO should do 12 years. A 21 year old student being close to an 11 year old boy does sound a little creepy, though it was more from Robert looking up to Wayne.