ROI rivalry

**Feech** · 27/12/2005, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by klein4

I hate the swiss.
just cause I think they came to lansdowne and got a win that they didnt really deserve or have to really fight for and earn.

Your issue is with the Irish team, not the Swiss then.

Originally Posted by klein4

they seem to have misplaced arrogance that doesnt really sit well with their ability.

Well they've finished 2 places above Ireland, never lost to Ireland, and won once in "Fortress Lansdowne" in the last 2 qualifying tournaments so surely they are entitled to feel that they are better than Ireland?

Your later quote

Originally Posted by klein4

I was referring to their general standing in the world game and to the way they have no impact at tournaments they get to. pretty straightforward really.

Like Ireland's total of 2 wins in World Cup Finals? One of which was against those world beaters Saudi Arabia.

All facts, not opinions.

**klein4** · 27/12/2005, 2:32 PM

yawn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I hate the swiss." UNARGUABLE STATEMENT OF FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!
get over it....

**M@ttitude** · 27/12/2005, 3:00 PM

Ill yawn with you calvin, why do swiss come onto this forum to remind us how bad we are? Give us a break, we're going through a rough time! Go to the World football section, or foot.toblerone eating cheesey *******s! Im sorry but you kicked us out of the world cup, can someone kick them off our website?

Back to the point, biggest rivals.. England first without a doubt, press, media hype, arrogance! Just the feeling of david and goliath when beating them.

Spain: We owe them a big one.

Switzerland and Israel: A handy 4-1 beating, make it look easy.

Nigeria: I hate playing them.

**Feech** · 27/12/2005, 3:23 PM

Originally Posted by M@ttitude

Ill yawn with you calvin, why do swiss come onto this forum to remind us how bad we are? Give us a break, we're going through a rough time! .

I'm not Swiss. Why would that impact upon my postings anyway? Nice to see that reasoned intelligent debate is dead. Who need facts when you've got emotions?

Of course England has to be our biggest rival given our history.

Anyone who thinks Switzerland are Ireland's biggest rivals are obviously focusing on 4 years of hurt instead of 800!

**klein4** · 27/12/2005, 4:57 PM

your swiss and ya know ya are!!!!!!!!!!!!

**M@ttitude** · 27/12/2005, 9:42 PM

Originally Posted by Feech

Anyone who thinks Switzerland are Ireland's biggest rivals are obviously focusing on 4 years of hurt instead of 800!

I didnt know Ireland have had a professional football team for 800 years..

**Feech** · 28/12/2005, 1:14 PM

Originally Posted by M@ttitude

I didnt know Ireland have had a professional football team for 800 years..

If you think there is a dichotomy between national rivalry at a political and sports level then you are very naive.

**Roverstillidie** · 28/12/2005, 1:43 PM

Originally Posted by Feech

If you think there is a dichotomy between national rivalry at a political and sports level then you are very naive.

dichotomy? thats a very big word for a gypo!! they learning you in cabra now?

i said that 5 pages ago and got given out to. the question is inherently political. thats why we dislike the swiss but hate the engerlish.

**M@ttitude** · 28/12/2005, 2:40 PM

Originally Posted by Feech

If you think there is a dichotomy between national rivalry at a political and sports level then you are very naive.

Well id rather just stick to the footy side of things as best I can.

Originally Posted by Feech

Nice to see that reasoned intelligent debate is dead. Who need facts when you've got emotions?

Then why bring up the 800 years thing??

**TheJamaicanP.M.** · 28/12/2005, 2:53 PM

Originally Posted by klein4

yawn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I hate the swiss." UNARGUABLE STATEMENT OF FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!
get over it....

"Yawn" is klein4's answer everytime he is wrong, which is quite often. Klein4, your lack of contribution to this forum, as well as your childishness are becoming, shall we say, yawn!
BTW Feech, you made some good points.

**klein4** · 28/12/2005, 4:50 PM

lack of contribution?
How is it possible for me to be wrong on this?
I am the only person in the world who could be right about how I feel about the swiss! both feech and plasticpaddy/pineapple stew are making assumptions I never made in order to start an argument. so yeah I do find it boring hence the yawning.you are sayin anybody who says anything you dont agree with shouldnt be allowed post? pretty boring forum your going to have then, but then again that may suit you!

**Roverstillidie** · 29/12/2005, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by M@ttitude

Well id rather just stick to the footy side of things as best I can.
Then why bring up the 800 years thing??

its international sport. war by other means etc.

emotion rules this one by its fundamental nature.

you cant 'stick to the footie' on a question like this. the debate has split into those who say a: engerland every time or b: engerland but the swiss/israelis/dutch/whoever are also due a tanking.

its the nature of the beast

**EireBadBoy** · 29/12/2005, 1:26 AM

England. I hate the bloody French too for some irrational reason.

**Feech** · 29/12/2005, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by M@ttitude

Then why bring up the 800 years thing??

Surely the past 800 years have informed most Irish people's opinion of the English? My point is that this also manifests itself in sport.

What assumptions have I made about you Klein4? I disagreed with your post and gave reasons why. Your response was to start yawning, you are so bored by this subject that you have made multiple postings on it!

Thanks Jamacian.

**Feech** · 29/12/2005, 10:56 AM

one other point I forgot to make - no-one here in Switzerland considers Ireland to be a rival!

**klein4** · 29/12/2005, 11:59 AM

well the main assumption you made was that I was comparing the swiss to Ireland, when all I said was I hate them. you assume that I have to justify any negative feelings towards them by comparing them with Ireland. I dont.and before you say it I know what the title of the thread is. but just go back and read my initial post.

**M@ttitude** · 29/12/2005, 2:40 PM

Originally Posted by Feech

one other point I forgot to make - no-one here in Switzerland considers Ireland to be a rival!

Well, why should you? We never cause you any problems! Personnally, I like the swiss people, always have the craic with them but I/we really want to beat them because we know we are capable of doing so. Facts and stats aside, we know.

**Stuttgart88** · 31/12/2005, 10:42 AM

Dunno about "rival" but our biggest enemy lies within. I reckon we have the worst national stadium of any side in the FIFA top 50 rankings & the most incompetent administrators of (certain aspects of) the game. I say "certain aspects" as I'm sure Owls fan will be onto me in a flash defending the FAI's grassroots efforts! But the FAI's handling of any affairs, including media relations, relating to the senior & U21 international sides is disgraceful. The government has been no bloody help either. The press here reports on English football like it's our own national league whereas I think the emphasis on English football reporting should at least include highlighting any Irish involvement. I was out with mates at Christmas, all regular Irish watchers, who hadn't even heard of Joey O'Brien. Does RTE single out any Irish in their Premiership analysis on Saturday evenings? If they don't, they should. It'd be a start.

Did anyone see Duff's remarks about Lansdowne recently, basically calling it a sh1t hole?

**Cosmo** · 31/12/2005, 3:38 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

The press here reports on English football like it's our own national league whereas I think the emphasis on English football reporting should at least include highlighting any Irish involvement.

Or maybe even start covering the Eircom League as if it was our national league