Any Liverpool supporters think that the WCC is a waste of time?

**mypost** · 18/12/2005, 6:34 AM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

How are they bound to be technically and tactically inferior forever? The progress in both of these areas in continents and countries outwidth Europe and South America even over the last two decades has been immense.

Check the results. If they've made so much progress, why do they keep losing?? Not just this time, but every time they come up against European/South American teams.

How can you abitrarily deny the overwhelming majority of the world the right to compete against the best clubs in the world?

You would deny them this for the sake of two clubs playing 1 extra match?

The overwhelming majority of the world doesn't care about this mickey mouse tournament. This is a FIFA event, making more unnecessary demands on players. Forcing clubs to fly their players halfway around the world to play 2-3 games in a week in the middle of their league seasons, just for the hell of it, is crass organisation. The game against Saprissa was our 30th game already this season.

I think you mentioning 2 Asian sides only highlights your ignorance and dismissiveness of the other clubs. Care to show me the 2nd Asian side?

Alright, you got me on that one. But the team from Egypt are as near to Asia, as Kazachstan and Israeli teams are to Europe.

By the way, I guess Palace don't deserve to be in the football league after conceding a goal in under 30 seconds today against Plymouth eh? What a silly specious argument.

What's this about?? How relevant is it to this thread??

**Plastic Paddy** · 18/12/2005, 7:20 AM

Originally Posted by mypost

This is a FIFA event, making more unnecessary demands on players. Forcing clubs to fly their players halfway around the world to play 2-3 games in a week in the middle of their league seasons, just for the hell of it, is crass organisation. The game against Saprissa was our 30th game already this season.

Serves Liverpool right. You could and should have finished above Everton last season and then six of those games this time around would have been avoided.

PP

**sligoman** · 18/12/2005, 11:22 AM

Oh would ya look at that. Liverpool aren't World champions after all

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**Kerry Blue** · 18/12/2005, 6:33 PM

Another trophy for the Tricolor this year.

Well done to Sao Paulo! The Champions of the World!!

**dfx-** · 18/12/2005, 6:49 PM

Fair play to Sao Paulo, they somehow managed to hold out and our constant second half pressure didn't work out. Back to the league we go then. (avoiding 1-2 defeats to West Ham and 0-4 to Bolton and 1-1 draws at home to Everton, of course)

mypost, we lost - you better go back out and rearrange that postponed protest march outside Anfield against Benitez and his stupid regime and go on hunger strike until Mikey agrees to come back and save us from the depths of eternal failure! Quick - get to it you can't afford to lose any time!

**mypost** · 18/12/2005, 7:37 PM

Originally Posted by d f x-

mypost, we lost - you better go back out and rearrange that postponed protest march outside Anfield against Benitez and his stupid regime and go on hunger strike until Mikey agrees to come back and save us from the depths of eternal failure! Quick - get to it you can't afford to lose any time!

**Poor Student** · 18/12/2005, 7:39 PM

Originally Posted by mypost

Check the results. If they've made so much progress, why do they keep losing?? Not just this time, but every time they come up against European/South American teams.

Keep losing? What losing streak are you on about then?

Originally Posted by mypost

The overwhelming majority of the world doesn't care about this mickey mouse tournament. This is a FIFA event, making more unnecessary demands on players. Forcing clubs to fly their players halfway around the world to play 2-3 games in a week in the middle of their league seasons, just for the hell of it, is crass organisation. The game against Saprissa was our 30th game already this season.

The tournament being Mickey Mouse is your subjective opinion. For a final that no one cares about that was some crowd of neutrals at the final. Who are you to say what the majority of the world wants? Actually all the other clubs have finished their seasons so the word "clubs" is incorrect. The only team it doesn't particularly suit is Liverpool. But hey, that's the burden of success. Do you complain about the burden of midweek games due to having to play in the CL? The only reason you're up to so many games is due to not finishing in the top 4 last season and having the privelege of playing in other tournaments as European champions.

Originally Posted by mypost

Alright, you got me on that one. But the team from Egypt are as near to Asia, as Kazachstan and Israeli teams are to Europe.

I'm sorry, you're not getting away with that. By the way, you'll find part of Kazakhstan is actually in Europe.

Originally Posted by mypost

What's this about?? How relevant is it to this thread??

In a silly flippant way you've been using Liverpool's quick goal against Saprissa to run them down as if conceding a quick goal is the entire measure of a team's quality. I agree, it is an irrelevant point.

**mypost** · 19/12/2005, 1:04 AM

Originally Posted by Poor Student

The tournament being Mickey Mouse is your subjective opinion. For a final that no one cares about that was some crowd of neutrals at the final.

There were 600 Liverpool fans and Japanese at the final. Did Chelsea care about it, did Barcelona, AC Milan, Real Madrid, Boca Juniors care about it?? Unless your team's involved, noone gives a hoot.

Who are you to say what the majority of the world wants?

And vice versa??

Do you complain about the burden of midweek games due to having to play in the CL?

Midweek games in the CL are played in Germany, Spain, France, Belgium, Holland, etc, all of whom are considerably nearer to Liverpool than Japan.

The only reason you're up to so many games is due to not finishing in the top 4 last season and having the privelege of playing in other tournaments as European champions.

Rather it's because of UEFA's crass rules. If the holders were allowed to defend the CL by right, we would have gone straight into the group stages, as what should have happened. That's a debate for another time.

you'll find part of Kazakhstan is actually in Europe.

Kazachstan is in Asia.

In a silly flippant way you've been using Liverpool's quick goal against Saprissa to run them down as if conceding a quick goal is the entire measure of a team's quality. I agree, it is an irrelevant point.

Liverpool have conceded goals in the first minute occasionally. Palace and Plymouth are teams in the same league, of the same standard. If you expect Costa Rican no-hopers to seriously push European Champions, that is delusional. Games against Sao Paulo are a few steps up from playing Blackburn, Sunderland, Wigan, and Portsmouth every week. Just as well, that the defeat didn't matter.

**Aberdonian Stu** · 19/12/2005, 11:11 AM

A portion of Kazakhstan is west of the Urals making it partly in Europe. The rest is in Asia (not wholly dissimilar to Russia albeit with a far smaller proportion of its land in Europe).