Any Liverpool supporters think that the WCC is a waste of time?

**Redtop** · 12/12/2005, 7:09 PM

i think that it would be an honour for liverpool to lift the trophy but what effects is it goin to have on the players?? especially with us starting to hit form in the league and europe

**dfx-** · 12/12/2005, 7:14 PM

No...proud to be out there..even just being 'allowed' to compete there shows the success of the current regime of the club and I would prefer to win this and finish 3rd or 4th than just finish second. We are not ready for second and will also see how well we can adapt to such trips to play competitive matches rather than revenue streams.

I want to win this more than the FA Cup and and League Cup..."Liverpool v. Sao Paulo"..........

Announce to the world - CONCACAF, Asia, South America etc. that Liverpool are ready to take on anyone anywhere and be extremely competitive at the very least - we're not just prepared to win against Utd andCharlton every week and claim that is brilliant success.

**mypost** · 12/12/2005, 7:44 PM

Originally Posted by d f x-

No...proud to be out there

Announce to the world that Liverpool are ready to take on anyone anywhere. We're not just prepared to win against Charlton every week and claim that is brilliant success.

Changing your tune, eh?

So who are we playing against in the World version of the European Super Cup?? The cream of the crop?? AC Milan? Real Madrid? Juventus??? No, rather a bunch of non-entities from Central America and Africa.

This junket is a tiresome and expensive waste of everyone's time. It has all the meaning of a couple of glamour friendlies. How can a side call themselves World Champions, when a few months ago we couldn't even qualify for the CL, beats me. The sooner the team gets home from that "tournament", the better.

**Poor Student** · 12/12/2005, 7:52 PM

Originally Posted by mypost

How can a side call themselves World Champions, when a few months ago we couldn't even qualify for the CL, beats me. The sooner the team gets home from that "tournament", the better.

The same way they can call themselves European Champions after beating all teams on offer to them in the CL no?

The non-entity you speak of from Africa Al Ahly of Egypt command anything up to an estimated support of 40 million. Just because you are ignorant of global football it does not mean you can brush other teams aside as non-entities. I like the idea of giving clubs from other continents a stage to compete against the best in the world. Something for progressing football countries to aspire for and maybe one day be able to raise their level to.

**dfx-** · 12/12/2005, 8:11 PM

I think you'll find sir, that being European Champions as you often refer to us as we have already beaten the cream of the European Crop including of the teams you mentioned...

I am not changing my tune either, I am merely wanting to add to the improvement of the success against Charlton by bringing it to another level. However unlike your Einstein-like self, I am not prepared to go there until we are capable of beating those poorer teams and would not claim it a success until we are capable of beating the weaker teams. Your sole argument against weaker teams is that we're European Champions so we should beat them.

I want to beat everyone not because we're European Champions but because we are indeed better than them. Beating weaker teams has nothing to do with being European Champions.

We can call ourselves World Champions if we win because that's what we'll be, much to your disappointment I'm sure. I'd love to know how you propose someone else who did qualify easily for the CL could propse to be Champions when they can't beat such a useless bunch of whipping boys from Liverpool who have a manager who refuses to play or sign the right players and doesn't know what he's doing. I mean how could Liverpool possibly survive against Chelsea, Milan or Juventus or Sao Paulo if they were to play them?

We are playing against very big teams in this tournament and they are competitive matches, despite what some might think. I would certinly not underestimate any of the teams involved and why I think it even better if we were to win out.

**JoeSemi** · 12/12/2005, 9:42 PM

Originally Posted by mypost

Changing your tune, eh?

So who are we playing against in the World version of the European Super Cup?? The cream of the crop?? AC Milan? Real Madrid? Juventus??? No, rather a bunch of non-entities from Central America and Africa.

This junket is a tiresome and expensive waste of everyone's time. It has all the meaning of a couple of glamour friendlies. How can a side call themselves World Champions, when a few months ago we couldn't even qualify for the CL, beats me. The sooner the team gets home from that "tournament", the better.

Hardly playing against those top European teams when they are neither European winners, or winners of any other federations' Champions Lge equivalent. Last I looked they were all still playing in their respective countries.

I don't know what possessed you to claim yourself as a Liverpool fan mypost.

You seem to question every stride the club make as if you are a jealous follower of some other club in disguise. The title of World Club Champions is up for grabs whether you like it or not, and Liverpool are keen to add the trophy to the cabinet for the first time. The people who matter- Benitez, Gerrard, Parry, the fans and everybody connected to the club see it as worth winning, so who are you to dismiss it as nothing more than a ""couple of glamour friendlies"?

**mypost** · 13/12/2005, 2:16 AM

Originally Posted by JoeSemi

The people who matter- Benitez, Gerrard, Parry, the fans and everybody connected to the club see it as worth winning, so who are you to dismiss it as nothing more than a ""couple of glamour friendlies"?

No, they see it as compensation for having to cancel the lucrative Japanese tour in pre-season. That's all this tournament serves, as a money-spinner.

Who are we up against??

The mighty Sydney FC,
The talented Al Ittihad,
The troublesome Saprissa,
The giants of Al Ahly.

Lads, they should be dismissed by us out-of-hand. You need more than 10 teams to make a proper tournament. This isn't one of them.

**Macy** · 13/12/2005, 8:19 AM

Quick question, is this replacing the intercontinental cup, the true world club championship, or is it in addition too it?

Seriously, the intercontinental cup is the one with tradition on it's side, not a sepp "players should play less games" blatter money maker....

**Aberdonian Stu** · 13/12/2005, 9:55 AM

It's replacing the intercontinental cup, that's why it's being hosted by Japan. Old WCC format was too long while in the eyes FIFA (possibly read blatter) the IC didn't give other continents a chance.

**Macy** · 13/12/2005, 10:57 AM

Should be taking seriously then as the Inter Continental Cup is a competition worth winning - history and tradition to that competition.

**drinkfeckarse** · 13/12/2005, 12:53 PM

If you enter a competition, then it is worth winning.

**Aberdonian Stu** · 13/12/2005, 1:11 PM

Originally Posted by Macy

Should be taking seriously then as the Inter Continental Cup is a competition worth winning - history and tradition to that competition.

Well I rate it and think it's very important but it's history isn't all that stellar. European teams used to pull ot regularly see here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europea...h_American_Cup
Might I stress I'm one of the first in line to question wikipedia but the stats on participation are accurate.

**jockser** · 13/12/2005, 3:15 PM

If Liverpool win the tournament it will be another trophy with the title of being world champions for a year.
So yes i do value this tournment and hope we win it

**jockser** · 13/12/2005, 3:19 PM

Originally Posted by mypost

How can a side call themselves World Champions, when a few months ago we couldn't even qualify for the CL, beats me.

Well if liverpool win they WILL be world champions. The qualified for this tournament BECAUSE they ARE european champions....fool.....

**Mayo Red** · 13/12/2005, 10:04 PM

It would be a nice trophy to win, but I just hope we don't suffer a hangover in our league form after the competition is over. It would be a shame as we are firing on all cylinders at the moment!

**Block G Raptor** · 14/12/2005, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Mayo Red

It would be a nice trophy to win, but I just hope we don't suffer a hangover in our league form after the competition is over. It would be a shame as we are firing on all cylinders at the moment!

Rafa Benitez thinks its the Ideal time as we are getting that winning mentality

Benitez on... the World Club Championship

When you see the people and talk to them, the workers, the staff and supporters and the team they enjoy winning, they want to win and believe they can win. It takes a long time to establish but I think that Liverpool has it." "For me it is a challenge. I want to win games and win trophies. As a manager, the players are more important than you. You can make all the plans, but it is up to them to win. I will prepare them as best as I can for the tournament and hopefully we will be successful. This is a very big tournament and we are going to try and do our best to win it. It deserves to be a big tournament with extremely tough qualification: how else would you measure the best? Whoever wins will be worthy champions. It's a beautiful trophy and we want to bring it back to Anfield.

Could cause a premiership hangover but if we're realistic I dont think we'll catch Chelsea anyway so lets hope we win the WCC at least its another international trophy for us (who wants the itty bitty premier league trophy..it'd be dwarfed in our trophy room by the five big cups and the WCC

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