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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortuna1886
    If I had the choice I'd rather have been in Shels position going into the Final.
    What playing muck in their poorest season for years?
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortuna1886
    For what its worth I do belive there is more strength in depth down there but to say Linfield couldn't compete in the top 3 in the LOI is delusional.
    They could compete alright but they wouldnt win out in the end,no point blamin it on being part-time cos if ye wanted to improve in europe and in a general sense ye would be fulltime already

    Linfield were always the biggest club along with rovers both north and south so they had more of an oppurtunity to go professional than most other clubs, but they didnt,why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete
    Yeah if using Shels should be matching them against Portadown...
    Speaking of matching Portadown...

    Too many ifs and buts int his thread, I'm just going to say that if Kilkenny City had a team compromised of the Worlds best XI, a load of support, and neverending resources, then maybe one day they could challenge for the league title.
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    I think Linfield surprised most people in last years Setanta Cup final & they were worthy winners. However i think too much moaning by some IL sides in the Setanta Cup moaning about big fulltime eL sides when Longford were just as part-time as the IL sides.
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    It's a bit of a ridiculous thread to be honest. There is no way of knowing.

    Linfield won the Setanta Cup anyway so Eircom League clubs can't really be gloating. The EL is hardly the Premiership or Serie A anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatGuy
    Linfield won the Setanta Cup anyway so Eircom League clubs can't really be gloating.
    Clubs who aren't in the Setanta Cup and never have been have no grounds to gloat about anything anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by royalblue
    Nearly everyone is missing the point, what i have been trying to say is that southern teams are generally fitter, but that cant make you technically better. To say so is pure nonsence. Fitness doesnt equal technically better. As for your great results in europe, do you honestly think its because you are technically better than the swiss,french,german,russian, etc These nations are technically superior than any produce in Ireland north or south. Its your fitness that helps you compensate for your lack of technical abilty. Just have to look at the FA Cup or other tournaments. You will quite often see teams like Aston Villa, Everton Spurs etc get beat by a team from a lesser division. Is that down to better players, generally no, down to fitness and will to win. Everton got to fourth last year, was that because they had the fourth best set of technically gifted players? no it wasnt. It was because they hounded teams and they where well organised.

    Shels Crowe is not technically better than Glen Ferguson
    Shels Baker is not technically better than Stephen Carson
    Shels Byrne is not technically better than Gary Hamilton

    Just some examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dricky
    Shels are history.
    it gives me no pleasure saying this, but i think shels will win the league next year. hope i'm wrong, but they were the strongest team for the last half of the season, and they've a stronger squad than either of the cities. even if Jayo goes, crowe and o'neill will come good for them.

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    they might have had a great run at the end of the season but so did city last season and we got to within 3 points of them that year,there was a lot more pressure on city and derry compared to shels aswell
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    I honestly think some people on this forum are radio rental. To say Northern Teams are pub teams is the biggest joke ever. How many trophies have cork, shels, bohs, rovers and derry won in their history. Take a look at Linfield and Glentorans trophy collection!

    As for the reason Linfield are not a professional setup just ask the IFA. In the early eighties Linfield had a discussion with the IFA about fulltime football and the IFA told them that they would kill local football if they went fulltime.

    Thats why for many years our local papers would print stories on Linfield maybe applying to join the Scotish League/ English League. But that was never going to happen.

    Also Linfield just cant decide to go professional, they need the rest of the league or atleast a few of the other clubs to bridge the already big gap in finances and stadia. For a team to improve and for the league to improve you need to have a competitive league both football wise and financially. Even Chelsea are proving this, they are leaving the rest behind.

    Sure the goverment has promised the league a first payment of 8 million to improve stadia and meet some debts. We still are waiting for that money, will it ever come to all who need it, who knows. We need to get the IFA's backing first and then we can begin to look at all the options, we also need to bring local buisnesses on board for financial backing.

    I mean some of our players up north are getting buttons. A lot of our top players actually get more money in their place of work than they would at their club. Certain teams just couldnt pay good wages, so why would you want to go fulltime as a player and actually earn less money. I know I wouldnt give up my career for a lesser paid one unless I had no option. Or I knew that it would benefit me more in the long run.

    We would need certain communties to back their local team or teams (and thats also a problem to many teams). Money would also have to come from TV and advertising. Our product is badly sold here.

    The other problem up here is the lack of good stadia for familys to attend, if we can improve on these things then the crowds will come back.

    I mean your crowds are not massive, thats forsure!!!

    The North has always had bigger crowds than our southern counterparts, only in recent years has our crowds fallen away. And yours are not exactly growing are they.

    But then you will get all the corkers saying "royalblue;we have big crowds" And ill answer "thats because cork city is miles away from any other form of human life."

    Remember the future is bright, the future is Linfield!!!
    Last edited by royalblue; 12/12/2005 at 2:37 PM.
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    royalblue wrote;

    honestly think some people on this forum are radio rental. To say Northern Teams are pub teams is the biggest joke ever. How many trophies have cork, shels, bohs, rovers and derry won in their history. Take a look at Linfield and Glentorans trophy collection!
    Jesus Christ RB that's what most of the eL fans have been saying here. Outside the top 2 or 3 in the iL there is fcúk all else happening!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raheny Red
    Jesus Christ RB that's what most of the eL fans have been saying here. Outside the top 2 or 3 in the iL there is fcúk all else happening!!
    The more he says, the more he proves us right.

    Keep it up blue boy, we're all agreeing with you.
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    Yep its just like the scot's 2 teams every year (except maybe this one)

    Course your gonna win more trophey's when the rest of your league is crap

    Even a poor longford side did ok against your two strongest teams and i say ok cause your crap and so are they, yes you beat us in the final, fair play your deserved it, thats a one off, can't see you beat any of the irish side in the final this year thats if you even get to the final, i see an all eorcom league final two of three teams shels, cork or derry

    We proved how poor you league is by trashing Glentoran in the champions league and had it been linfield the result wouldn't have changed, go watch some Eircom league and you'll soon realise what i'm talking about,i know its not the Serie A but its a hell of a lot better than the irish league up north, which is rank

    i look forward to beatin whoever we get in today's draw, with or without Byrne
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    Quote Originally Posted by royalblue
    Take a look at Linfield and Glentorans trophy collection!
    So you can shoot fish in a barrel ... fair play !!
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    You guys are hilarious!! Shooting fish in a barrel, just great, only we have been winning tournament after tournament since we where formed when you lot where included. Look at our record against southern teams, nearly impeccable and thats from the beginning. Which club in history is going to be remembered as Irelands greatest club north and south; why of course Linfield. Lets face it you have a had a few great years, but lets compare trophy cabinets!!! We have the premier heritage not you lot. And the scary thing is we are going to get better and better. We are Irelands most hated team and thats because we are the most sucessful team arround. History will remember and honour Linfield for being the greatest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by royalblue
    We are Irelands most hated team...
    Listen mate, you might be hated round your way but most of the population of Ireland don't even know who you are.
    If you stopped 100 people on the street in Dublin and asked them who were the most successful team in NI, they'd say "Derry?"

    You're history, just like Rovers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by royalblue
    History will remember and honour Linfield for being the greatest...
    Mod edit : I have deleted that ..... anymore and you are out on your ear.
    And anyone else that is even thinking about it .... you know what will happen. Think !!



    I now live in England, and while most people know of Shamrock Rovers and the Shels, EVERYONE I talk to about Irish Football knows of Linfield. And the unfortunate association with violent loyalism seems to be the only reason. It truely saddens me, but its true in my experience


    Mod : Dont start mentioning 'your experience' and not back it up.
    For the record, i dont want you to back it up, on egg shells now fella. Sort it out ... you have seven posts.
    Last edited by A face; 13/12/2005 at 12:17 AM.

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    Ok this topic is beginning to fizzle out. Well the Setants Sports Cup (thats gonna
    be the new name) is being made now. Come Feb lets see if RB adn the rest still got the same attitude!!
    Who Cares?!

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    Ye i'm searchin every site to find out who we have

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    Royalblues point is merely that our teams are not technically more gifted as theres.The fact that Linfield won the Setanta cup this year would support this in my veiw.

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