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    Quote Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
    Explain the shot of Armstrong on the moon with the LEM and aldrin reflected in his visor Aldrin is facing away from armstrong and the doorway to the LEM is clearly visible and no one is standing in the doorway
    History records that collins stayed on board so who took the shot ?
    Oswald of course!
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    Quote Originally Posted by strangeirish
    Oswald of course!
    Classic. I had to ask Didn't I

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    Quote Originally Posted by strangeirish
    Oswald of course!:
    BGR.........when The Strange One strikes..........he strikes.........I have suffered too............I feel your pain. LMAO

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Commission

    the most interesting thing about kennedy is that the u.s. congress in the late 70s found that a conspiracy was likely and that oswald fired 3 of 4 shots, and that a accessory fired a 4th shot and missed. taking into account marina oswald's verified connection to the KGB (her uncle was a v. high ranking operative) and anti-castro elements angry at JFK for the bungled bay of pigs invasion, it's easy to see where several interests might have converged. in oswald they found their foil.

    people interested in pyramid building should check out coral castle in florida u.s.a., a remarkable contruct of huge stones cut and assembled by one man using primitive tools.

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    Now this is a very good thread.
    Maybe the camera just wasn't one that Aldrin had to push a button down on for the flash or whatever. I wouldn't believe those ones at all. Reckon Oswald did fire all the shots but would definately buy into some of the conspiracies there.
    + It all seemed ridiculously easy for Jack Ruby.
    The most likeliest of all the famous ones though imo is Diana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
    I disagree as an avid amature photographer I've studied the photo's and found some strange unexplainable abnormalities
    The clincher for me here is that they left stuff behind them which you can still look at through a telescope.

    As for the pyramids, there are hundreds of different measurements you can take of them and hundreds of units those measurements can be taken in. Compare all of these to a few hundred physical constants and chances are you'll get a few that match.

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    I had a look at that website and two of the unexplained photographs are easy enough to explain.

    In this one: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/Moonlanding1.htm

    The claim is that for a far away light source (i.e. the sun) the two shadows of two men of similar height should be the same length but their not. The conclusion is that the light source is much closer i.e. in a studio.

    If you look at the shadow on the left you'll notice that it's very stumpy. The shadow has unusually long legs and a stumpy body. This could not be caused by a studio light. It could however be caused by the slope of the ground being uneven. The land is sloping upwards starting at about the waist of the left hand shadow. This is why his upper body is shortened while none of the other shadow is. This sloping can further be seen from the change is shading of the land, the sloping section is brighter as it is facing more towards the sun.

    In this picture there is a similar affect. http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moonlanding7.htm

    The claim is that for a far away light source all shadows should be paralell but they're not in the reflection in the helmet. Again this points to a near source of light. Again it is explained by a curve, this time on the rounded helmet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Risteard
    Now this is a very good thread.
    Maybe the camera just wasn't one that Aldrin had to push a button down on for the flash or whatever. I wouldn't believe those ones at all. Reckon Oswald did fire all the shots but would definately buy into some of the conspiracies there.
    + It all seemed ridiculously easy for Jack Ruby.
    The most likeliest of all the famous ones though imo is Diana.

    Apparently
    the only camera's on the moon were mounted on the brest plates of the astronaughts spacesuits and the trigger mechanism was in their gloves
    therefore Aldrin would have to have been facing Armstrong to have taken the photo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
    The co-ord's given in degrees minutes and seconds on google earth as compared to the closest estimation of the speed of light in kilometers per second
    I'm confused. Why would the Egyptians design a pyramid whose co-ordinates matched a measurement in a measure which was only invented a couple of hundred years ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu
    I'm confused. Why would the Egyptians design a pyramid whose co-ordinates matched a measurement in a measure which was only invented a couple of hundred years ago?
    Now your starting to think out of the box
    it is pretty strange no?

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    No, I just think it's a case of people using statistics to prove whatever they want. Sure 75% of people know it can be done, Kent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Student Mullet
    In this picture there is a similar affect. http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moonlanding7.htm

    The claim is that for a far away light source all shadows should be paralell but they're not in the reflection in the helmet. Again this points to a near source of light. Again it is explained by a curve, this time on the rounded helmet.
    Also, the shadows in that picture are converging, not diverging as they would if caused by a close source of light. All in all, a poor attempt a conspiracy theory.

    It is ironic that earlier in that link the author says that a university chemistry student could spot flaws in NASA's plan when in fact two university engineering students can spot fairly obvious holes in this fellas 'proof'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
    ...when you add the sides of the pyramid together you get in inches the exact diameter of earth in miles. the co-ordinates of the point of the great pyramid is exactly the first six digits of the speed of light (the pyramid is a monument to the sun god rah sun/light)
    the list goes on and on http://www.aloha.net/~johnboy/Reticulum.htg/Reticulum.htm
    Quote Originally Posted by Schumi
    News to me that the Egyptians used 'inches' and 'miles' identical to modern ones. Sounds like this is either made up, wishful thinking or a co-incidence.

    The co-ordinates measured from where and in what units? Ditto for the speed of light.
    My first thoughts exactly, Schumi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
    The co-ord's given in degrees minutes and seconds on google earth
    as compared to the closest estimation of the speed of light in kilometers per second
    What's a kilometer? Or a second? What's a degree? Or a minute, or a second? Why the heck would the Egyptions predict that we'd make a co-ordinate system with the meridian running through Grenwich? None of that makes any sense if you assume it's a deliberate plan, unless the ancient Egyptians had time travel. If the ancient Egyptians had time travel, I'll eat my hat. I don't have a hat.

    Taking the Hebrew cubit to be 25.025 inches, the length of each side of the base is 365.2422 cubits, the exact number of days in the solar year (including the extra day for every 4 years).
    Okay, here's another one. First it was the diameter of the earth, now it's the days in the year. Which is it?


    The slope of the sides of the pyramid is of such an angle that they meet at the apex at the predetermined height of 232.52 cubits. If twice the length of a side at the base, be divided by the height of the pyramid we arrive at the figures 3.14159, which when multiplied by the diameter of a circle, gives its circumference.

    The perimeter of the base of the pyramid (365.242 x 4 = 14609.68) is exactly equal to the circumference of a circle whose diameter is twice the height of the pyramid (232.52 x 2 x 3.1416 = 14609.68). So here we have in these figures the solution to the problem of how to square a circle
    So what you're saying in these two paragraphs is that 3.14159 = 3.1416? Damn, but these Egyptians were crafty.

    The angle of slope of the sides is 10 to 9. That is, for every 10 feet you ascend, you rise in altitude 9 feet. And if you multiply the altitude of the pyramid by 10 raised to the power of 9, you have 91,840,000, which in miles, is the exact distance of the sun from the earth!
    Which is a restatement of both your earlier facts about the slope of the sides and the hight/base ratio, only once again coincidentially matches some random distance in a measurement system that didn't exist for a few thousand years until after the fact.

    The year of the stars is called the 'Sidereal' and the year of the seasons is called the 'Equinoctial'. They differ by about 50 seconds per year. In other words, the stars in their rising and setting are retarded by about 50 seconds each year. In order for the 'Sidereal' and the 'Equinoctial' years to come around and coincide again would take 25,827 years, which is called a 'cycle'. If we add together the diagonals of the pyramids base in inches, we arrive at 25,827, or as many inches as the cycle has years.
    Again, statement comes from same geometry as the length of the base, and again, it's in some random imperial measurement compaired to some other random constant.


    The Great Pyramid stands at the exact centre of the world. It is midway between the west coast of Mexico and the east coast of China. Between the north cape of Norway and the Cape of Good Hope in South Africa. It stands at the intersection of the 30th parallel, both latitude and longitude. The Great Pyramid was the highest buildings in the world for thousands of years until modern man began building skyscrapers such as the World Trade Center. If it were compared to a skyscraper, the Great Pyramid would be 42 storeys high. It contains enough stone to build a six foot high wall from New York to Los Angeles.
    Impressive. I really like how they picked the exact location of Grenwich to be 30 arbitrary units of measurement off the arbitrary exact central line of longitude. Fingers in all the pies, these time-travelling Egyptian buggers. No wonder the Yanks are working for them.

    I give up. I can't compete with bucketloads of random facts without so much as a healthy reserve of cynicism.



    Quote Originally Posted by Student Mullet
    As for the pyramids, there are hundreds of different measurements you can take of them and hundreds of units those measurements can be taken in. Compare all of these to a few hundred physical constants and chances are you'll get a few that match.
    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu
    I'm confused. Why would the Egyptians design a pyramid whose co-ordinates matched a measurement in a measure which was only invented a couple of hundred years ago?
    Jaysus, half of UCD is here to debunk this one!
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    Sounds like you should on be on Questions & Answers!

    JFK, the Moon landing and the Pyramids were all before my time...but does anyone think there was a conspiracy involved in Wacko Jacko's case?

    I mean it's very grey and the chap's obviously going mad during the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superfrank
    JFK, the Moon landing and the Pyramids were all before my time...but does anyone think there was a conspiracy involved in Wacko Jacko's case
    Well, there is a theory out there as to why Mr Jackson is banned from Dunnes Stores during sales, with boys pants being half off and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strangeirish
    Well, there is a theory out there as to why Mr Jackson is banned from Dunnes Stores during sales, with boys pants being half off and all.
    I heard that one on Conan months ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John83
    Jaysus, half of UCD is here to debunk this one!
    I have on for you John,

    Think of a number between 1 and 99, it must be even.

    Now add 5,

    divide by 2 and round down if the number is less that 25, round up otherwise,

    now, multiply your answer by zero,

    add 7.



    Is your final answer 7?
    How did I do it?

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    My God, it's a conspiracy!!!

    I used to have great fun with that when I was a kid. No-one ever got it right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
    therefore Aldrin would have to have been facing Armstrong to have taken the photo
    he was.
    and as for "that" film by oliver stone, the only FACT about it is that its complete rubish...

    i dislike intensely film makers who use big budget productions and studios to turn complete fiction stories into "facts" which will inevitably be absorbed as such by that plague of a society we call america- it really is quite baffleing as to how an education system could go so wrong...

    btw, im not having a go at the posters on this thread, as long as you are being objective and accurate i dont have a problem. it just annoys me that it appears acceptable in american culture to blatantedly ignore factual evidence on the basis that it does not support your viewpoint, and then to profiteer on your lies. you only have to look at the da-vinci code and the countless books on jfk to know what im talkin about.

    what bugs me is that many peoples reputations and lives are ruined by conspiracy theorists, very often for no reason at all.
    arent we all just magic little monkeys...

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