QuoteOriginally Posted by sirhamish
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Freedom Dust hummmmm ! what next hey I know freedom nukes they free thousands from this mortal coil
bush should be in the dock alongside hussien
Yes, or the Government should at least do something about it
No, take their word for it that no prisoners are moved through Shannon
Give sources please for first two paragraphs to back that up, lim till I die. Jesus, we're not all Chardonnay quiffing middle class D4 liberals, you know (says Hamish defensively LOL)
Why shouldn't Amnesty publicise their efforts???
Where is the hypocricy in calling for justice/release of political prisoners in Burma, Indonesia, Uzbeckistan and so on?
Jesus, I'm sure Nelson Mandela was pleased for the support those so-called hypocrites gave him.
There are many people rotting in jails throughout this planet and many who wouldn't know about them and do fcuk all about their plight - except for Amnesty.
Bringing it closer to home, here's a case of an Irishman fcuked in to a Moroccan hell hole. Has anyone heard Bertie or Dermot Aherne mentioning anything about this guy. I already have had information from Amnesty about this chap.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...30squilla.html
Fact is - if Amnesty and Human Rights Watch weren't shouting and campaigning about Mandela, Biko etc no government(s) would give a flying fcuk about their plight.
http://www.africa.upenn.edu/Govern_P.../mand_amn.html
Last edited by hamish; 07/12/2005 at 11:36 AM.
I do Try
Freedom Dust hummmmm ! what next hey I know freedom nukes they free thousands from this mortal coil
bush should be in the dock alongside hussien
Cheers BGR.
There's a feeling that The Ultimate Pr!ick, Dick Cheney, might be up the creek for war crimes. That's the dipsh!t that dodged Vietnam FIVE TIMES - he said that he had other priorities.
Every one of those pukes dodged either Vietnam and Gulf War1 - no problem sending young men and women to "Iraqnam" - all on a pack of lies and twisted "evidence".
Right on there, amigo, here's a picture of one of the two times Rumsfeldt shook hands with Saddam - about the time the tyrant was using WMDs - and when Rummy and friends were supplying them to him along with Germany and others.
http://michael.ellerman.id.au/misc/Rumsfeld-Saddam.jpg
http://willowpondlane.com/blather/im...eld-saddam.jpg
(Same meeting, two photos actually)
To give an idea of the type of hypocrital dipsh!t Bush is, here are two quotes by Chimpy McFlightsuit and both given SIX MONTHS apart
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." —Washington, D.C., Sept. 13, 2001
6 short months later........
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." —Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002
Bertie is a cute hoor as they say but even he hasn't reached the sludge levels that the Bubble Boy wallows in. They would just laugh at him and shaft us at earliest opportunity.
Can't believe that any of Bush's people would ever be made amenable for as much as a parking ticket. The rules get made up as they go along.
It's a pity that Professor Robert Alford died. He's the guy who showed how the spotlight was shifted from bin Laden, whom they couldn't catch, to Saddam, just as the Enron scandal and corporate corruption was filling the papers. Alford is quoted in his obituary as saying:
"The case of Enron, and subsequent corporate bankruptcies and scandals, is an example of the systematic falsification of information, or (to reverse it) the production of misinformation. What is striking is how little this phenomenon is recognized, let alone explained or theorized, in all of the theories of information that we have examined." He went on to analyze the way in which the crisis in Iraq diverted media attention from the administration’s circumstantial connection to the corporate scandals.
I remember reading Umberto Eco's 'The Name of the Rose' and thinking how awful it must have been to have lived through the times of lies and corruption in the Middle Ages. I'm beginning to think times haven't changed!
Well I think it is our business, but like you say we would be asking for trouble if we did this.
Well said RedX.
Good Question. If not, then make sure they are only refuelling and they don't stop for a cup of tea -if they do, spit in it!
Time for to call Captain Rico.
RICO! RICO! RICO!
Cool. I presume they still do this? Give the pilots a cavity search too -that'll stop them!When my grandfather was in the army he used to have job of checking USSR planes when they landed in Shannon for nukes - he just walked past with gigacounter
Yes but the w@nks er sorry yanks are not likely to put suicide bombers on the dart if we start searching planes their enemieshowever are a different kettle of fish
Well I think it is our business, but like you say we would be asking for trouble if we did this.
True, but they could probably see if he HAS been tortured.
Yes, I think that this is true according to the Geneva Convention ( or some other one drawn up after the end of WWII ) -turning a blind eye makes you a guilty party.
The affairs of another country is none of our business then? What about the genocide in Rwanda -that was in another country, if you could roll back time would you not be happy to see that massacre prevented by other countries ( ourselves included ) ?
Just because people who are vicitms / abused / murdered are in a different country doesn't mean that other countries should stand by and watch ( IMO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ).
This is a good opportunity for someone to tell me where the phrase 'Uncle Tom' came from?Rice is a fcuking sellout ...an Aunty Tom so to speak
Don't you mean Sinners?Not too keen on the Shinners TBH, no offence, lotta baggage there still.
Time for a joke:
President George W. Bush visits a primary school classroom. They are in the middle of a discussion about words and their meanings.
The teacher asks the President if he would like to lead the discussion on the word "tragedy". So, the illustrious leader asks the class for an example of a tragedy. One little boy stands up and offers:
"If my best friend, who lives on a farm, is playing in the field and a tractor runs him over and kills him that would be a 'tragedy'."
"No", says President Bush, "that would be an 'accident'."
A little girl raises her hand: "If a school bus carrying 50 children drove over a cliff, killing everyone inside, that would be a 'tragedy'."
"I'm afraid not," explains the President. "That's what we would call a 'great loss'."
The room goes silent. No other children volunteered. President Bush searches the room. "Isn't there someone here who can give me an example of a 'tragedy'?"
Finally, at the back of the room, a small boy raises his hand. In a quiet voice he says: "If Air Force One, carrying you, Mr President, were struck by a friendly fire missile and blown to smithereens, that would be a 'tragedy'."
"Fantastic!" exclaims Bush. "That's right. And now can you tell me why that would be a 'tragedy'?"
"Well, says the boy, because it certainly wouldn't be a 'great loss' and it
probably wouldn't be a f **king 'accident' either!"
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RFLMFAO absoloutely brilliantTime for a joke:
President George W. Bush visits a primary school classroom. They are in the middle of a discussion about words and their meanings.
The teacher asks the President if he would like to lead the discussion on the word "tragedy". So, the illustrious leader asks the class for an example of a tragedy. One little boy stands up and offers:
"If my best friend, who lives on a farm, is playing in the field and a tractor runs him over and kills him that would be a 'tragedy'."
"No", says President Bush, "that would be an 'accident'."
A little girl raises her hand: "If a school bus carrying 50 children drove over a cliff, killing everyone inside, that would be a 'tragedy'."
"I'm afraid not," explains the President. "That's what we would call a 'great loss'."
The room goes silent. No other children volunteered. President Bush searches the room. "Isn't there someone here who can give me an example of a 'tragedy'?"
Finally, at the back of the room, a small boy raises his hand. In a quiet voice he says: "If Air Force One, carrying you, Mr President, were struck by a friendly fire missile and blown to smithereens, that would be a 'tragedy'."
"Fantastic!" exclaims Bush. "That's right. And now can you tell me why that would be a 'tragedy'?"
"Well, says the boy, because it certainly wouldn't be a 'great loss' and it
probably wouldn't be a f **king 'accident' either!"
That's a brilliant one allright Shelsman.Time for a joke:
President George W. Bush visits a primary school classroom. They are in the middle of a discussion about words and their meanings.
The teacher asks the President if he would like to lead the discussion on the word "tragedy". So, the illustrious leader asks the class for an example of a tragedy. One little boy stands up and offers:
"If my best friend, who lives on a farm, is playing in the field and a tractor runs him over and kills him that would be a 'tragedy'."
"No", says President Bush, "that would be an 'accident'."
A little girl raises her hand: "If a school bus carrying 50 children drove over a cliff, killing everyone inside, that would be a 'tragedy'."
"I'm afraid not," explains the President. "That's what we would call a 'great loss'."
The room goes silent. No other children volunteered. President Bush searches the room. "Isn't there someone here who can give me an example of a 'tragedy'?"
Finally, at the back of the room, a small boy raises his hand. In a quiet voice he says: "If Air Force One, carrying you, Mr President, were struck by a friendly fire missile and blown to smithereens, that would be a 'tragedy'."
"Fantastic!" exclaims Bush. "That's right. And now can you tell me why that would be a 'tragedy'?"
"Well, says the boy, because it certainly wouldn't be a 'great loss' and it
probably wouldn't be a f **king 'accident' either!"
Here's a cartoon video of that joke with subtitles. Hope you
don't mind me loading it and spoiling things.
You'll hear the opening music - just scroll down a little bit to view flash cartoon.
(It's part of the infamous Little Johnny series - try and find the one about Little Johnny burying his goldfish too)
(Hope it loads in any case)
http://mediapickle.com/new/index.php...template&id=91
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Tom
Another derogatory term I've heard used - and possibly racism-based - is "coconut" - black on the outside, white on the inside.
Last edited by dahamsta; 08/12/2005 at 6:26 PM.
BBC
More claims of kidnapping & torture by the CIA.
Does anyone really believe the US is not using Shannon to transport suspects they have kidnapped? Can their jets make it across the Atlantic onto eastern Europe without refueling?
Rice opening her trap again http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4505552.stm
Last edited by Block G Raptor; 07/12/2005 at 3:01 PM.
This sh!t is getting worse and worse.
Remember that row a week or so ago when some Muslim bloke alluded to Ireland's co-operation with the Yanks and being a possible target?
I feel that, with Al Qaeda spreading its tentacles everywhere in the planet, they're sussing out (what might be termed) "soft" targets.
I imagine the US Embassy would be one although its probably in a security zone we don't know about.
But Osama Bin Forgotten has also mentioned US firms, agencies, factories etc, hasn't he?
Do you guys (and gals) think we are under observation?
BTW, before anyone jumps in, this is NOT an indirect anti-Islam or anti-"immigrant" opinion. Bring in more here I say.
(From a personal point of view, I can tell you that we have loads of Muslim doctors here in Beeslow (Portiuncula) and quite a few of them have helped to make auld Hamish a lot better than he might have been.
Because of the Shannon stopover, do you folks think that there will be a terrorist attack on Irish soil??
This sh!t is getting worse and worse.
Remember that row a week or so ago when some Muslim bloke alluded to Ireland's co-operation with the Yanks and being a possible target?
I feel that, with Al Qaeda spreading its tentacles everywhere in the planet, they're sussing out (what might be termed) "soft" targets.
I imagine the US Embassy would be one although its probably in a security zone we don't know about.
But Osama Bin Forgotten has also mentioned US firms, agencies, factories etc, hasn't he?
Do you guys (and gals) think we are under observation?
BTW, before anyone jumps in, this is NOT an indirect anti-Islam or anti-"immigrant" opinion. Bring in more here I say.
(From a personal point of view, I can tell you that we have loads of Muslim doctors here in Beeslow (Portiuncula) and quite a few of them have helped to make auld Hamish a lot better than he might have been.
Because of the Shannon stopover, do you folks think that there will be a terrorist attack on Irish soil??
I would say it is a deffo possibility
every time I see an asian with a ruck sack on the train i get an erie feeling (I dont mean this to sound racist or anything like that it is just how I feel as you just never know)
Well you get what you vote for. Much like we're saddled with Bush over here, you are saddled with clueless Bertie. So much for being a "neutral" country.
their own muslim countries too so a bomb or two in Ireland is now big deal for them.
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"Jacques Santini...will be greeted in every dugout of the country by "one-nil, one-nil" - Clive Tyldsley, 89th minute of France-England June 13, 2004.
"Ooooohhhh Nooooooo" Bobby Robson 91st minute.
All too true, Metrostars, all too true.
Always vote Greens (stood in last election here) or independents myself. Local FF PD and FG TD's are woeful.......father passes seat onto offspring or some other relation - usual story. Labour don't feature that much in East Galway = now and again.
What's all that brouhaha about the Ohio vote last year.?
Lots of Dems saying it was a rigged affair?????????
Chimpy McFlightsuit will destroy the US the way he messed up Texas. The sheer arrogance towards the World community is staggering.
As a former Galway West constituant, I used to vote for that crackpot Michael D. A bit off the wall but least he was different from the rest of them. Voted for Michael Badnaric of the Libertarian Party at the last US presidential election in the hopes of a third party rising. Not much of a chance of that happening though here.All too true, Metrostars, all too true.
Always vote Greens (stood in last election here) or independents myself. Local FF PD and FG TD's are woeful.......father passes seat onto offspring or some other relation - usual story. Labour don't feature that much in East Galway = now and again.
What's all that brouhaha about the Ohio vote last year.?
Lots of Dems saying it was a rigged affair?????????
Chimpy McFlightsuit will destroy the US the way he messed up Texas. The sheer arrogance towards the World community is staggering.
As for the Ohio stuff, some of the Dems whackos were claiming that bucketfuls of votes here were not counted or incorrectly counted due to problems with the Diebold voting machines. I really dont think this was 100% true, just a few Dems would cant take much more of Bush. The whole thing boils down to having a poor candidate in Kerry and not having a good candidate with charisma such as Clinton.
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"Jacques Santini...will be greeted in every dugout of the country by "one-nil, one-nil" - Clive Tyldsley, 89th minute of France-England June 13, 2004.
"Ooooohhhh Nooooooo" Bobby Robson 91st minute.
That's the thing I remember...the Diebold machines. Wasn't there something, though, about the different zones in Ohio?? Something to do with the organisation of voters on the day so that Republicans had greater access or something and Democrats had a limited number of machines availabe.
Dammit, I'm trying to remember the details but it did, even at the time, look like that some Democrats were clutching at straws, to put it mildly.
Kerry was such a disappointment wasn't he??? Remember, that "John Kery, reporting for duty" speech.Jesus, that was cringe-making.
I also thought he should have been more forceful with the Swift Boat Smear Merchants too.
His policies were all over the place in addition.
The repubs made hay of his "voted for the war but then voted against it" comments. Very bad candidate indeed. They should have gone for someone like Lieberman who was at least consistant on the war. Dean was too much of a crackpot and still is. Gore, well, is still looking for his lockbox. Hil, is just biding her time for an '08 run.That's the thing I remember...the Diebold machines. Wasn't there something, though, about the different zones in Ohio?? Something to do with the organisation of voters on the day so that Republicans had greater access or something and Democrats had a limited number of machines availabe.
Dammit, I'm trying to remember the details but it did, even at the time, look like that some Democrats were clutching at straws, to put it mildly.
Kerry was such a disappointment wasn't he??? Remember, that "John Kery, reporting for duty" speech.
I also thought he should have been more forceful with the Swift Boat Smear Merchants too.
His policies were all over the place in addition.
"Jacques Santini...will be greeted in every dugout of the country by "one-nil, one-nil" - Clive Tyldsley, 89th minute of France-England June 13, 2004.
"Ooooohhhh Nooooooo" Bobby Robson 91st minute.
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