QuoteI think most people will agree with what he said, its painfully obvious and to suggest otherwise would be moronic. Hopefully this year with nothing to lose/gain so to speak, we'll utilise our preferred 4-4-2.Originally Posted by hoopy
in fairness, from uefa's point of view that makes sense, ur hardly suggesting they should lower the standard of compettion so irish teams would have a better chance...
arent we all just magic little monkeys...
I think most people will agree with what he said, its painfully obvious and to suggest otherwise would be moronic. Hopefully this year with nothing to lose/gain so to speak, we'll utilise our preferred 4-4-2.
God
We're dropping 0.666 next year. So anything over that will bring our coefficient up. It'll depend on what other countries get as well, obviously, but if the results are the exact same as last year, we'd move up to 37th. We'd then have our two worst years in ages to drop - 0.166 and 0.333 with a very good chance of solidifying our first round seeded status for many years to come and work towards the next stage, which would be a bye to round 2. That's optimistic, obviously, but that's where we stand.
City & Shels are clearly the best equiped to perform in Europe due to their experience of recent years. Derry & Drogs qualified for their Uefa spots but i feel Inter Toto is best route to give new teams experience.
I believe now that every team in Europe is expected to progress to the 2nd qualifying round. I don't care for excuses or moral victories. The eL expects the 2nd round & anything less is failure.
I am not optimistic about Derry & especially Drogs performances.
Every a relatively poor set of results such as :
Derry - 1 win, 1 loss
Drogs - 1 win, 1 loss
City - 1 win 1 draw 2 loses.
Shels don't matter as no ranking points.
would mean 1.166 ranking points.
I haven't check the seedings fully but i believe Cork City could get Ekranes & Djungardens in CL round 1 & 2 next season.
Wouldn't be too optimistic about that at all. Still feel that CCFC are by far the most equipped to progress in Europe with the way they play football regardless of oppositionHopefully this year with nothing to lose/gain so to speak, we'll utilise our preferred 4-4-2.
Yes your right..ccfc are well equiped and we all expect them to progress a round or 2 nowadays which is great to hearI do think Shels can get threw 2 rounds of inter toto cup.. I have to say..I think Derry are a good enough side to get through 1 round at least.. but not Drogheda
Overall.. I think the el clubs will do well in next years European competition
I wouldn't write-off the Drogs at all. A lot of the players have a fair amount of European experience, money is being spent, and that number of experienced players will only expand over the close season. They are in the top four teams in the league (tempted to say island, but never mind for now). The one thing that they don't have going for them is their manager's inexperience in managing in Europe, but that might change yet
That question was less stupid, though you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.
Help me, Arthur Murphy, you're my only hope!
Who? Gartland, Webb, Lynch, Riistila (?) They don't have much experience at all really.
Yeah, on very average players like Damien Lynch, Mark Rooney, Glen Fitzpatrick... Doolin's record in the transfer market is woeful, and I wouldn't expect that to change over the winter.
I would doubt they are one of the top four teams on the island when you consider Linfield won the Setanta. The fact remains they were 26 points off the top - and 19 off third - and even fourth was only secured with a late run of form. They're no better than Longford over the last couple of years. Except Longford do have European experience...
im glad someone is not writing off the drogs. we have plenty of players with european experience. not at our club obviously but at others at players that layed at a decent level abroad.
the drogheda team you all predicted would be walked all over by cork on sunday didnt show up and i expect the same to happen in europe. doolin will have money to spend and i think that the idea that he is no good in the transfer market is unfair
lynch
webb
gartland
whelan
bradley
sami ristela
all good signings and could all do a job in europe
add hunt and jason byrne and we might do alright. thats the rumour anyway!!
i'd say shels will do well and with the rest its the luck of the draw.
the setanta will be the most interesting competition coz one of the irish teams will win it this year.
feel our league is stronger this year. european spots to four best teams at least so anything can happen
cop on stu with your "i hate doolin" propaganda
anyone can see through your sh**e
bad experiences more like......
.....sorry couldn't resist the temptation
Life isn't all beer and football...some of us haven't touched a football in months
His record at UCD was singularly appalling. Richie Purdy, Barry Andrews, Greg O'Dowd, Austin O'Neill, Mark Rooney, Niall Donnelly, etc. At Drogheda, he's signed the likes of Mark Rooney, Niall Donnelly, Pat Sullivan (E24k to sit on the bench?) ando thers while selling the likes of Andy Myler.
Wha a superb argument. I commend your lucidity of thought.
If he's a great manager, why did Drogs - with an expensively put together, full-time team - finish so far off the top? Why did they fail to build on last season? Why was there much talk during the season on the Drogs board as to whether Doolin was up to the job? Why are there so many people in the eL in general who are unconvinced by him? Why did he take a UCD team who had started the previous season in Europe and get them relegated two years later for the first time in thirteen years?
3 victories and a draw would be very good work. It would mean 1.666 and Iwould have to say hats off to Drogs and Derry if they can pull it off.
Cork are in a good position IMHO. They learnt a lot from the slavia away game. A slight bit more cautious would probably get a decent result away from home.
Shelbourne did look like they were a bit mentally fragile compare to Cork and our policy was to boot it long instead of taking it down and playing. The pressure is off Shels now and we could well get past the 3 qualifying rounds.
2006 season will be very intresting.
Gartland played for Longford in europe. Likewise Webb and Lynch for boez. Ristilla is a full international and has European experience with FC Haka.
I wouldn't class Rooney or Fitzpatrick as average. Rooney is one for the future with great potential and Glen has 4 goals in europe as well as a league medal.
Fact is Drogheda under Doolin have just won the Cup so its wrong to say they havent built on last season.
I thought you got relegated under Pete Mahon? To be fair your hatred of Doolin, for whatever reason, is clouding your judgment.
KOH
The same way you got relegated under Alan O'Neill.
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
We got relegated under Branvard.
Did Mahon come in at the very end of the season as well?
KOH
Can't remember the precise stats but we were at least 10 points adrift when he came in after 20 games or so and went down by only two points in the end, picking up about 10 points more in the last 16 games than in the first 20. I think that points haul extended to the whole season would have had us 4th or so.
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
I wouldn't bank on it his abysmal display in europe cost him his job at bohs remember
Have you been at the magic mushrooms again
Kevin Hunt was born to play for Bohs and will Die A Bohs man
Get fcuking real
Very naive. Players dont care (Derek Tracey excepted of course).
KOH
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