European Season 2006

**EnDai** · 04/12/2005, 11:54 PM

At the end of the day everyone should stop listening to thejollyrodger!

I think 99.99999% of Shels fans would genuinely disagree with his off-the-cuff remarks!

**sligoman** · 04/12/2005, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by EnDai

I think 99.99999% of Shels fans would genuinely disagree with his off-the-cuff remarks!

Good, ye were starting to sound like the Cork fans there for a sec

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**EnDai** · 05/12/2005, 12:00 AM

We couldn't have that now, could we?!

**dancinpants** · 05/12/2005, 4:36 AM

Originally Posted by sligoman

At the end of the day, records stand for nothing! You can have a poor season and there is nothing to suggest that Shels, Cork, Derry or Drogs will or wont do well next season, simple as that.

What that man said. Well said that man!!!!

**Gareth** · 05/12/2005, 7:18 AM

I think after one whole page of response we can safely say the original comment has got zero other shels fans support. Now can it be considered an indiviuals thought rather than a shels fans stance

**Dazzy** · 05/12/2005, 11:01 AM

If Derry did have a record in Europe it wouldnt matter, We have a young team and most of them havent played in Europe! We need to experienced players to be brought in and then a few younger talents and we'll be doing well in Europe!

**Schumi** · 05/12/2005, 12:10 PM

Does anyone know who's likely to be seeded? I'dguess that Cork and Shels will be (for what it's worth in the InterToto) and Drogs and Derry won't be. Anyone know for sure?

**OneRedArmy** · 05/12/2005, 12:37 PM

Derry will be unseeded in the UEFA Cup & their chances will largely depend on the draw.

We have no recent European form of note and most of our players have little or no European experience, but I think its a given that Kenny will have the team better prepared for Europe than ever before (ie we won't be playing a high profile friendly 2 nights before the away leg this time).

Cork and Shels have upped the level of expectation and I would like to think we could get through one round. Anything else would be a huge bonus.

I wouldn't write Drogheda off either. If they continue to throw the cash around like they have been doing they could be a formidable team.

**MrJoeSoap** · 05/12/2005, 2:12 PM

Originally Posted by EnDai

I think 99.99999% of Shels fans

Hehehe, surprised no-one has used this as a chance to slag us yet!

**dcfcsteve** · 05/12/2005, 2:21 PM

I'm nervous about how we'll do in Europe, but if there's one man in the League who I trust to approach it in the right way it's Kenny.

As ORA suggested, we effectively need to get 3 results to get through the first round - with the most important result being the draw for our UEFA opponents. Give us a Welsh, Norn Irish or possibly even a Scottish club, and I think we'll be alright.

I expect Cork and Shels to both do us proud in Europe next year. Particularly Shels, as they'd be our strongest Inter-Toto entrants for years.

Drogheda are a completey unknown quantity in Europe, but I'm not expecting much from them. Their football is u-g-l-y, and they ain't got no alibi (just an FAI Cup for it...

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**pineapple stu** · 05/12/2005, 5:17 PM

Originally Posted by Schumi

Does anyone know who's likely to be seeded? I'dguess that Cork and Shels will be (for what it's worth in the InterToto) and Drogs and Derry won't be. Anyone know for sure?

Cork - no. Shels were only seeded because of their draw against Lille, and Cork have no club points.

Shels - very hard to tell. I saw somewhere the seedings for last year's InterToto and Bohs were ranked in the lower top-half of the clubs, but for some reason, some of the lower top-half and upper bottom-half teams were switched. I've no idea how the seeding in that competition works.

Derry and Drogs - possibly not. Longford and Cork were border line last season - Longford seeded and Cork not - and we've dropped two places in Europe this season.

Originally Posted by sligoman

At the end of the day, records stand for nothing! You can have a poor season and there is nothing to suggest that Shels, Cork, Derry or Drogs will or wont do well next season, simple as that.

Don't agree fully. Yes, it's irrelevant that Drogheda's only previous European campaign resulted in the single heaviest two-leg defeat ever suffered by an Irish team. However, you can look at how far off the pace Drogs were this season despite a full-time squad, how they don't have Cork's or Shels' European experience, how Doolin's got a poor record in the transfer market and giving him another E100k isn't going to transform the team and reasonably conclude that they are the weakest of the four teams and the ones least likely to progress.

**thejollyrodger** · 05/12/2005, 6:30 PM

Originally Posted by sligoman

At the end of the day, records stand for nothing! You can have a poor season and there is nothing to suggest that Shels, Cork, Derry or Drogs will or wont do well next season, simple as that.

At the end of the day Drogs have it all to prove. Its as simple as that. Shelbourne were really firing on all cylinders for a few seasons there and the results in europe werent a massive shock.

**thejollyrodger** · 05/12/2005, 6:32 PM

Originally Posted by EnDai

At the end of the day everyone should stop listening to thejollyrodger!

I think 99.99999% of Shels fans would genuinely disagree with his off-the-cuff remarks!

WEll all im saying is that Drogs and Derry have it all to prove next year and I wouldnt be getting carried away.

As for George O callagahan. I wasnt particlularly impressed by his comments about shels and I dont really care what you agree with EnDai

**EnDai** · 05/12/2005, 6:35 PM

Thats good. I don't care that you don't care!

**higgins** · 05/12/2005, 6:56 PM

Does anyone know who's likely to be seeded? I'dguess that Cork and Shels will be (for what it's worth in the InterToto) and Drogs and Derry won't be. Anyone know for sure?

No Irish team will be seeded...
That was the point I was trying to make a few months ago when there was so much crap like "I hope shels get thumped" "I hate those Cork ...bla bla". A rise in tide lifts all boats and sadly the tide didnt go up too far but we have a very good base now so olets hope all three teams can grab some more points.

As for Derry getting a Welsh, Northern Irish, or Scottish team !!

You are unseeded along with Wales and Northern Ireland so dont have a hope of getting them and Scotland wont be in the 1st Qualifying Round of the UEFA Cup for another couple of seasons

Actually you can see some possible teams you may face already in leagues that have finished.

**monkey magic** · 05/12/2005, 8:45 PM

so realsitically, what are we sayin here? what will it take to bring our co-efficient up?

the only realistic scenario i can see is cork, drogs, and derry getting through one round of their compettions, and shels, with a bit of luck having a decent run in the inter-toto, maybe two or three rounds...

what would it take to move us up a few places in the rankings?

**EnDai** · 05/12/2005, 8:46 PM

Nevermind getting through rounds, games have to be won.

**monkey magic** · 05/12/2005, 8:52 PM

is that how it works?

**lefty** · 05/12/2005, 8:55 PM

New inter toto sounds like a load of bolox. 3 rounds and your in the 2nd qualifying round uefa cup. That means that there are going to be a lot more good teams in the second qualifying round

**hoopy** · 05/12/2005, 9:01 PM

Originally Posted by sfc red

Shels on the other hand are dire to watch in Europe as Fenlon continuously employs a stupid4-5-1 in the hope of merely keeping the score down which is why we didn't do ourselves justice against Steaua, Lille etc.

Very honest and well said. Pity a lot of your other fans are blinkered to this fact