Statutory Rape

[superfrank]

No no i obviously put my point across wrongly!
Case of rape/murder/assult-jsut because you are drunk it doesn't mena people can do what they like to you!
Drink drivers are breaking the law and subsequently endangering others lives. This girl was drunk and passed out outisde her hotel room. The point I was trying to make is that just because a girl is drunk it shouldn't mean animals are allowed to rape her which is what this judge is effectivly saying!!

In my experiences of being drunk, you don't remember everything that happens. If she was really drunk, as she said, then how can't she be one hundred percent certain that she didn't consent. I don't condone rape in any way but in this case it's impossible for there to be any definite answer. Maybe the lad is lying but he was sober, she wasn't, therefore his testimony is more believable imo.

[gael353]

You sure it was dropped to 17? When did that happen?

it was a few years ago. I think the labour guy was in charge Mervin Taylor Quinn i think his name was. it was around te mid 90s with a labour/ff gov. The church got on bored and did a deal that if the gay and lesbian groups got what they were looking for ie equality with straight persons then theyd get their spoke in and get the legal age raised to 17. The catholic churce argued for an all ireland lagal age and had already got 17 in the north (16 in the rest of the UK) I felt this was a token effort by them to cover over the fact that they wanted the catholic kids to breed like rabbits to outnumber other religions up there. (northern ireland has the highest teen preg rate in the world so we're following a bad example set by the churce me thinks) So if you were 16 and this law was passed at this time you would have to stop till ye both hit 17 As the contraception laws were not changed to coincide with this change we now have only the best law ever which says you can buy condoms at 16 but cant use them till your 17. expiry date anyone lol

[hamish]

It does happen liam - people can do it to cover themselves from partners finding out or embarrassment. I know one guy who was accussed, but cleared by DNA evidence straight away. She confessed all once he was cleared -turned out the woman had got píssed, had sex with two different blokes, and was using the rape as cover for her husband. All the accused had done was help out after seeing her collapse in a ditch whilst she was walking home.

It's got to be beyond reasonable doubt for a conviction. If someone is too píssed to remember what actually happened, how can you convict on that basis?

Something almost exactly similar happened here a few months ago too.