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    Hidden History-Tonight

    Interesting programme on RTE tonight about Cork being burned down in 1920 by the black and tans

    http://www.rte.ie/tv/hiddenhistory/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry
    Interesting programme on RTE tonight...
    I was going to post the same thing myself, Terry.

    Perhaps there should be a sticky for people who want to watch TV shows other than rubbish like Desperate American Birds or Plane Crashes on Island.

    That Hidden History series is very good!
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    Talking

    I'll Be watching it might pick up some tips for our next visit to the cross

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    Quote Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
    I'll Be watching it might pick up some tips for our next visit to the cross

    WHat as a Black and tan???? Kilkenny merge with Bohs.....
    It's only just begun...............
    If the last 21 years were class, here's looking forward to the next 21 years. It is our time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dricky
    WHat as a Black and tan???? Kilkenny merge with Bohs.....

    Jebus my post was pretty unfunny (couldn't resist)
    but yours takes the fcuking tin of chocolate Hobnobs in the unfunny stakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
    Jebus my post was pretty unfunny (couldn't resist)
    but yours takes the fcuking tin of chocolate Hobnobs in the unfunny stakes
    Bohs links to the British army become ever more apparent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lim till i die
    Bohs links to the British army become ever more apparent
    As a member of Sinn Fein I find that Highly Offensive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
    As a member of Sinn Fein I find that Highly Offensive
    What, taking the biscuits ??
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    interesting story on James "Gunner" Mason in that RTE Hidden History link.

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    Jebus ... fairly mad stuff went on back then alright, i knew the story alright but that show has some of the finer details. Unreal.

    Why are we taught any of that in school though .... you'd have to ask that.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Always amazes me how little Free Staters seem to care about the North these days. A lot of people in the Republic have the aul' 'your just uncivilised head-cases' attitude, and seem to buy the British media line of it being about 2 communities who can't get on, as if the British have been nothing but a benign force in Irish history.

    Shows like this remind you that the Republic isn't too many years away from its own st mayhem and problems. How quickly some people forget....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
    As a member of Sinn Fein I find that Highly Offensive
    Please except my humblest and heartfelt apologies for the grave wrong I've done you

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
    Always amazes me how little Free Staters seem to care about the North these days. A lot of people in the Republic have the aul' 'your just uncivilised head-cases' attitude, and seem to buy the British media line of it being about 2 communities who can't get on, as if the British have been nothing but a benign force in Irish history.

    Shows like this remind you that the Republic isn't too many years away from its own st mayhem and problems. How quickly some people forget....
    I'd agree with ya Steve, but its not a case of forgetting though ... its more of a case of not being taught that brand of history. Maybe the blame for that is misdirected.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face
    I'd agree with ya Steve, but its not a case of forgetting though ... its more of a case of not being taught that brand of history. Maybe the blame for that is misdirected.
    More shows like Hidden History are called for to educate the people of this country on our history

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    I didn't see the show but people need to remember history but also move on from it. If we never move on then will be fighting wars for ever...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
    How quickly some people forget....
    Steve mate, I wasn't yet born in the 20's.
    My parents weren't yet born.
    My grand parents weren't even born actually.

    Of course it's easy for us to forget, we were never shown footage like that before. To us, it's history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    Steve mate, I wasn't yet born in the 20's.
    My parents weren't yet born.
    My grand parents weren't even born actually.

    Of course it's easy for us to forget, we were never shown footage like that before. To us, it's history.
    Jaysus - they breed young down in Cork !!

    My dad was born in 1935 - my Grandad in 1896. His dad was even around to fight for the Brits in the Boer War..!

    The Northern Ireland history sylabus (or at least the one I did at a Catholic school) provided a relatively comprehensive overview of the Easter Rising, War of Independence and the Troubles, so we got at leats a tastae of the times. The Burning of Cork was really only a scentence and a single photo though (that one they showed a few times last night of the row of burned-out cottages). It's terrible though if schools aren't even bothering to teach people the history of their own town....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
    Jaysus - they breed young down in Cork !!
    Not really Steve.
    I'm much younger than you and my dad is much younger than yours.


    We have a different education system to you and I was of the Junior Cert era where the burning of Cork didn't feature strongly in the syllabus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    I was of the Junior Cert era where the burning of Cork didn't feature strongly in the syllabus.
    If it had been the burning of Dublin, I'm sure it would've featured more highly.....

    Syllabus aside - I do think schools/history teachers have an unwritten duty to educate their kids on local history. I was lucky wnough to have a history teacher who was happy to 'free-style' onto a lot of this - but then Derry did have a fairly central role in the start of the Troubles, so he wasn't straying too far....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
    I do think schools/history teachers have an unwritten duty to educate their kids on local history.
    In order to teach it, the teacher needs to know it.
    If it's some poor mug from up the country, who learns what they must in order to get a teaching job, then gets sent down to West Cork, they might have a hard time telling the local kids what their history is.
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