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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man
    Looking at it from a business point of view I would have to back Bohemians to survive their current problems more than I would Rovers to survive theirs.
    You're on.

    Bohs main asset may be their downfall. We had no asset to use to pay creditors. Also, I really don't fancy anyone elses chances of doing a deal with the Revenue - especially going on what happened a certain other Dublin club in the last few weeks.

    As for our "40 designated days a year" That's match days, how many match days do Bohs have a year? We'll also have a clubhouse with a bar and more facilities (that we actually own) on site than Bohs have. Not forgetting the 50/50 revenue split with the council.

    So yes, you're on. I'll bet that we'll be on our way up as you're on your way down. And I'm fairly sure of it. Not a penny gets spent irresponsibly at Rovers these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
    Not a penny gets spent irresponsibly at Rovers these days.
    How do you define irresponsibly
    if by that you mean not spending what you dont have then you could be in the first division for a long time
    only a lunatic would suggest that the current Rovers squad will win promotion next year. you will have to spend a fair few quid to get out of that division FACT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man
    The fact of the matter is that Dalymount still belongs to Bohemians and generates massive amounts of money (in EL terms) for Bohemians. Far more money in fact than your shiney municipal stadium will on your 40 designated days a year.

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    Slag off the 'municipal' stadium all you like, but not every club in the league was lucky enough to have the government pay 99% of the cost to buy their stadium like Bohs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
    How do you define irresponsibly
    if by that you mean not spending what you dont have then you could be in the first division for a long time
    only a lunatic would suggest that the current Rovers squad will win promotion next year. you will have to spend a fair few quid to get out of that division FACT
    You can stop worrying your little head - our budget for next season is already sorted and it'll be up to the new manager to utilise it.

    And no, we won't be spending money we don't have but we'll still have a lot more than anyone else in the division. Debt free and tax compliant - can anyone else say the same?

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    Without meaning to cause offence, will the 50/50 revenue split with the SDCC not mean Rovers will have to half the money gate receipts, programme sales, merchendise e.t.c?

    If the council organise an event in the ground will half of that go to Rovers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speranza
    Without meaning to cause offence, will the 50/50 revenue split with the SDCC not mean Rovers will have to half the money gate receipts, programme sales, merchendise e.t.c?

    If the council organise an event in the ground will half of that go to Rovers?
    The correct answer is B. It only covers advertising revenue. Gate receipts etc from Council run events will be the Council's and vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
    Debt free and tax compliant - can anyone else say the same?

    Yeah Coz you're debts were written off by the administrators/liquidators

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    Quote Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
    Yeah Coz you're debts were written off by the administrators/liquidators
    Now you're catching on!

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    Makes a joke of clubs who actually pay their debts


    and Harps have no complaints from the tax man, our accounts are spot on
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    Not really, most of it was revenue debt on hyped wages, and its fairly obvious that we have paid the penalty on the pitch for that.
    Off the pitch the revenue got a top end 5 figure sum in settlement which they would not otherwise have recieved and continued monthly payments since.

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    Doesn't really matter how Rovers got their tax clearance cert but the cold hard fact is that they have it and other clubs will struggle to do so. This is something that will be held over clubs for progressing into whatever league structures are put in place by our all-powerful governing body. Shels' relationship with Merrion Sq and their willingness to relocate should see them through but Pat's and Bohs are on very shakey ground. Not sure where it leaves UCD and DCFC.

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    To be honest Philo, from what I'm hearing Bohs have a much better chance than Shels of being fully tax compliant. Obviously Merrion Sq will change the goalposts for Ollie in such a scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
    To be honest Philo, from what I'm hearing Bohs have a much better chance than Shels of being fully tax compliant.
    That probably doesn't say much though!

    I believe that UCD have quite strict regulations in place for years due to being part of the college which I assume would be sufficient for the FAI. Not 100% on that though.
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    Like I said, Shels are more willing to go along with the FAI than either Pat's or Bohs and Ollie's relationship with Delaney both personally and through business will only help them. Bohs are making progress at an obvious cost to facilties but the O'Byrne presence at Pat's can't be popular in Merrion Square.

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    To be honest Philo, from what I'm hearing Bohs have a much better chance than Shels of being fully tax compliant. Obviously Merrion Sq will change the goalposts for Ollie in such a scenario.
    Is it possible to change the goalposts any more after Rover just wrote off all their debt and carried on playing as if nothing was any different!!!!

    I think whatever happens fron here on in cant beat that one .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by higgins
    Is it possible to change the goalposts any more after Rover just wrote off all their debt and carried on playing as if nothing was any different!!!!

    I think whatever happens fron here on in cant beat that one .....
    what the **** are you talking about?

    we got relegated because of a points deduction!

    hardly carrying on playing like nothing happened.

    unbelievable what some people want to believe

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    Since Rovers was taken over by the fans the club has been 100% tax-compliant, paid all its debts and is a beacon of financial rectitude. We also lost around €500,000 through the examinership, making us the second-biggest loers in the write-off.
    If you want to cast aspersions, point them at the previous board rather than at the fans-owned SRFC. We've suffered too.

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    Great post, i cant seem to understand why other people from a certain club seem to be saying the whole time that all the crap that went on at SRFC was done while the 400 club was in control of the club.
    The same applied down here till Martin Colbert took over the running of the club when all the other RATS left a club to die and Martin had the courage to keep it running when all the other knockers were just sitting on the fence waiting to see it crumble.
    The same applies to the lads in the 400 club at SRFC, i personally think they done a magnificent job and fair play to them for doing what they done and i hope that their efforts will be rewarded with rovers back up in the premiere club.
    I would love to see other clubs if the same thing happened to them,would they have the balls (sic) to do what they done, i know the gypo's will come on and gloat over it but what goes around comes around .
    Then they have the cheek to give out to SRFC about the behaviour of their fans and to be honest i think the scummiest fans follow Boaz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NY Hoop
    Congrats your first post proves how obsessed and wrong you are. Come back soon!

    KOH
    Speak up it's hard to hear you all the way from the first division..

    By the way, what are you going to do with your "**** off Scully, you don't deserve a bonus" banner. Put it away for a few months? I hope you rot in the first division...
    Last edited by Skittles; 04/12/2005 at 4:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skittles
    Speak up it's hard to hear you all the way from the first division..

    By the way, what are you going to do with your "**** off Scully, you don't deserve a bonus" banner. Put it away for a few months? I hope you rot in the first division...
    Thank you for posting rubbish again

    KOH

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