Congratulations Cork City

**Dricky** · 21/11/2005, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by The Sheliban

Would I be so churlish as to point out that if your final game had been in the Brandywell and not Turners Cross, you probably wouldn't be Champions now?
No Of course I wouldn't.

Seriously, well done Rico, well deserved, didn't like your comments before the game, but congratulations nonetheless.

In the end, there was so little between the top two. Both would have made deserved champions.

Can we be so childish and point out that even if you lot were any good you still would of Lost. If we could travel to Shels and make you look ordinary once, plain twice why do you think we couldn't do it in the Brandywell.

**The Sheliban** · 21/11/2005, 11:33 AM

Err, because the Brandywell is a particularly hard place for any side to go and get a win.

**Block G Raptor** · 21/11/2005, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by The Sheliban

Would I be so churlish as to point out that if your final game had been in the Brandywell and not Turners Cross, you probably wouldn't be Champions now?
No Of course I wouldn't.

Seriously, well done Rico, well deserved, didn't like your comments before the game, but congratulations nonetheless.

In the end, there was so little between the top two. Both would have made deserved champions.

Dito!!

**tiktok** · 21/11/2005, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by The Sheliban

Would I be so churlish as to point out that if your final game had been in the Brandywell and not Turners Cross, you probably wouldn't be Champions now?

To be fair, while Derry may feel hard done by having to visit the Cross twice this season, I honestly don't think they could have lived with us on Friday's performance even at home, they had a young side who seemed caught up by the occasion and I think their performance suffered, we actually stepped up our game.

Also, this season we had to travel to Shels twice, while Derry had them at home twice. I still think the 33 game league is daft, but over the season these things balance out and you finish where you deserve to, We took 25 points from 27 in Dublin this year, that's exceptional IMO.

**Dillo** · 21/11/2005, 12:48 PM

Hard luck Derry.

**pete** · 22/11/2005, 10:38 AM

So proud to win the league playing great football in front of 9000 people packed into the cross live on tv.

Players really proved they can consistently perform in big games.

**NY Hoop** · 22/11/2005, 3:36 PM

Well done to Cork and particularly Damien. Can only comment on what I saw and they beat us easily three times whereas we won in Derry.

Great advertisement for the league friday and at the end of the day that's what its all about.

KOH

**Dricky** · 22/11/2005, 4:33 PM

Originally Posted by The Sheliban

Err, because the Brandywell is a particularly hard place for any side to go and get a win.

So we should make it easier for them is it????? that is the whole point of home and away like it or love it, it is an excuse and that is it, pointless from Kenny.

Sorry should make this clearer.

If could woulds, we at City have had that and it gauled alot of us some more than others. Get on with the job and stop moaning that is all, those sort of thing **** me off because they are what if's.

**The Sheliban** · 23/11/2005, 11:22 AM

No my point is that Cork fans are trumpeting about that they're the best side ever to have won the League, and I was merely pointing out that it was a very very thin line between them finishing first and second.
It is doubtful whether they would have put on last Friday's performance at the Brandywell.

But as I said before, both teams deserved it for their consistency.

**rebs23** · 23/11/2005, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by The Sheliban

No my point is that Cork fans are trumpeting about that they're the best side ever to have won the League, and I was merely pointing out that it was a very very thin line between them finishing first and second.
It is doubtful whether they would have put on last Friday's performance at the Brandywell.

But as I said before, both teams deserved it for their consistency.

Oh just ............................F.O.

**aido_b** · 23/11/2005, 4:05 PM

well done lads on decent league campaign, all the best for Europe!

**dancinpants** · 23/11/2005, 6:22 PM

Originally Posted by tiktok

To be fair, while Derry may feel hard done by having to visit the Cross twice this season, I honestly don't think they could have lived with us on Friday's performance even at home, they had a young side who seemed caught up by the occasion and I think their performance suffered, we actually stepped up our game.

This I agree with to an extent - however if the match was at the Brandywell, well - (and I'm not saying you lads would never have won) it would have been a much closer game.

Originally Posted by tiktok

Also, this season we had to travel to Shels twice, while Derry had them at home twice. I still think the 33 game league is daft, but over the season these things balance out and you finish where you deserve to, We took 25 points from 27 in Dublin this year, that's exceptional IMO.

Lets take the long view here. Coming into this season Cork were (are) a very strong and settled side, and Top 3 material for last 5 years or so. We on the other hand came into the season having finished 7th last season - most people thought we'd do well to finsh behind just Cork, Shels and Drogs this season. So when the fixture list came out - away trips twice to Cork, and twice to Drogs (even the two away trips to Bohs looked shady) looked a damn side more daunting to us than 2 away trips to Shels looked to you. Even though you were away to Shel's twice, we still managed to beat them in Tolka twice when you include the FAI Cup game.

Nobody points out that, far from being the pace setting team in the league blazing a trail to league glory - we both won 22 league games FFS!!. Nobody has pointed out that we racked up 3 goals on atleast one ocassion against 8 of the 11 teams in the division.

Bottom line? Cork and Derry are easily on a par.

**patsh** · 23/11/2005, 7:19 PM

City
2 away trips to
$hels
Bohs
Rovers
Longford
Waterford
Harps
so thats 17 away games, 9 games in Dublin, none of which we lost, we got 25 points from 27.
Setanta Cup games + UEFA games mean 10 more games straight off for City, as well as Cup games, league cup games, even Munster Senior cup games.
City had to play FAR more games that Derry, quite a few of them a few days straight after long away trips to Europe.
Derry are not on a par with City, otherwise we both have the same number of points at the end of the season.
Derry had a great season to come from where they were last year, but just face the fact that we are a far superior side.
Lets see how you cope with Europe next year, and hopefully you will do as well as we have over the last two seasons.

**dancinpants** · 23/11/2005, 8:43 PM

Originally Posted by patsh

City
2 away trips to
$hels
Bohs
Rovers
Longford
Waterford
Harps
so thats 17 away games, 9 games in Dublin, none of which we lost, we got 25 points from 27.

Add 1 away to UCD and 1 away to Pats? et voila - thats 8 trips to Dublin 22/24 points. We only won 5 out of 7 - wow, yer right, we must be far inferior than you!!

Originally Posted by patsh

Setanta Cup games + UEFA games mean 10 more games straight off for City, as well as Cup games, league cup games, even Munster Senior cup games.
City had to play FAR more games that Derry, quite a few of them a few days straight after long away trips to Europe.
Derry are not on a par with City, otherwise we both have the same number of points at the end of the season.

Ok you played 21 games outside the league (Setanta:4, LeagueCup:2, UEFA:6, FAI Cup:6, and the Munster Senior Cup:3). But seriously, I'm sure youse fielded a sh!t hot team against St Marys, Avondale, AND the mighty Carrick Utd. You played 6 in the FAI Cup due to the fact you couldn't put away Harps or Galway in 90 minutes - so that was yer own tough titty.. Let's take out the MSC, you played 18 (should have been 16 but ah well)...we played 4 FAI Cup, and 5 League Cup. Therefore you played 9 extra games than Derry this season. Sure thats nothing when you consider that Cork are a full time team and that we are NOT. So thats that part of your argument gone too.

Originally Posted by patsh

Derry had a great season to come from where they were last year, but just face the fact that we are a far superior side.
Lets see how you cope with Europe next year, and hopefully you will do as well as we have over the last two seasons.

I REALLY hope we do too - coz our European record so far makes for some dire reading to be brutally honest.

As for your argument that "if derry were on a par with cork we'd have got the same amount of points" - surely you can do better than that!!!

**Poor Student** · 23/11/2005, 8:52 PM

A belated congratulations to Cork. You were the best team I have seen live against UCD this season. Just walked right through us in that 5-1 game. Deserved title and made for one hell of an interesting race for the neutral. Do us proud in Europe next season please.

**Speranza** · 23/11/2005, 9:48 PM

If you were as you claim "far superior" then the league wouldn't have had run to the last day. The teams are on a par.

**coislaoi** · 23/11/2005, 10:07 PM

I think the teams are close to being on par. There was only two points between us at the end of the season. However, the league was not won and lost necessarily last Friday night but over the course of 33 games. We won because we had more points over 33 games (obvious I know

) and we also took 6 points out 9 against you. Excluding the games between us you got more points.

Sh�te, I've just contradicted myself.

**RedX** · 23/11/2005, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Speranza

The teams are on a par.

We are streets ahead of you...

..you had a lucky season really...

**sullanefc** · 24/11/2005, 12:29 AM

bottom line we played 17 away games and 16 home games and still won. This home and away sh!t is always going to crop up in a 33 team league. We won fair and square (due to the rules that we play by). So thems the breaks Derry had to play us at the Cross twice, big deal, we wiped Derry away. Cork the Better Team (by a long way) IMO.