England-Argentina

[Poor Student]

What a sectarian bunch we are, hoss. I'll send you the link to a thread on the Huddleboard Gandhi sent me about Protestants being the new Jews of Scotland, following their excessive arrest count last week. Most notable is the Martin Niemoller send up of it all: 'First they came for the right wing bigots/ But I was not a right wing bigot and did not speak out/ Then they came for the Freemasons/ I rolled up my trouser leg and did not speak/ Then they came for Prussian Blue/ But I hated neo-nazi girl bands so I stayed silent./Then they came for Alex Rae and I did not speak out because his elbow was in my face.'

Ok, you know the rules of this forum, or if you haven't read them. That goes for all of you, not just Lopez, stick purely to the football in here or don't post.

[Karlos]

A team that got hammered 4-1 by a side that didn't make the play-offs in a friendly and Norn 'f*ckin' Iron in a real game. Cop your self on you eejit!

I'm the eejit! take it totally out of context to suit you! We are talking about a team beating their most hated rivals who they have a significant history with in this sport and they can't celebrate that based on the fact they got beat by Northern Ireland and lost a friendly. And as I said, you think I'm the eejit!!!

Shoe on the other foot, we beat England in the last minute, it's a pleasure to know that you wouldn't enjoy it based on the fact we couldn't beat Israel and Switzterland in 'real' games........the mind boggles!!!

There's a whole load of copping on required in this forum.

[gustavo]

have to agree with you there Karlos.

[lopez]

...Shoe on the other foot, we beat England in the last minute, it's a pleasure to know that you wouldn't enjoy it based on the fact we couldn't beat Israel and Switzterland in 'real' games........the mind boggles!!!

There's a whole load of copping on required in this forum.

Of course I'd enjoy a last minute winner against the tans. I'd enjoy it a lot better if it was ten yards off side. And as a last minute winner versus the scum is often as early as the 26th minute before it's raining Stadium seats, I've even been there.

What I don't agree with is your statement: 'If anyone is guilty of treating friendlies like major matches it's US! ' A victory over the tans is as good as sex - even better when you reside in England - but it hardly makes us hot favourites to win the next World Cup.

Hop tip to all you share speculators out there: Put your money on any British Bookmaker (including the one named after a former Black and Tan). You'll be raking it in after the World Cup from their huge profits.

[Roo69]

Why was the game played in Switzerland?

It's to do with the fact that Sky Sports have the rights to all the England home games so to get around that and allow the game to be shown on the BBC it was staged in Switzerland. Very good game as close to competition as could be. Don't fancy the Brits to win the WC though as I'm starting to lean towards the Italians myself.[/QUOTE]

Argentina asked England to play and not the other way around. As nearly all of the Agrentine squad are based in Europe there AFA based it in Europe, as they would not have been able to get Top European sides to travel to South America mid-season. Just as the Aussies did a few seasons back. Makes total sense to do it like that.....

P.S. - There English....... Britian don't have a football side yet.

[Karlos]

What I don't agree with is your statement: 'If anyone is guilty of treating friendlies like major matches it's US! '

It's something I stand by completely. With the exception of posibly Celtic, I can't think of any other team whoose manager, fans and press treat results in friendlies like the most important games ever. I've listened to people
trawl out our record as reasons why managers should be kept, I've heard our fans sing we are going to world cups while we are winning 1-0 in a friendly and the press raving about our performances against weakened top 10 international teams.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with all this, on the contrary, i think you should want to win every game. But nobody and I mean nobody is more guilty than us of treating freindly games like world cup finals and it's laughable to hear us sneer at others for this reason...

I'm just wondering why there isn't a post ridiculing the Spanish and Dutch for example who also think they are going to win every tournanment they enter, have fans with dubious hooligan & racism records and a press that hype them up.......don't worry, I already know the answer to this one!

[Poor Student]

Of course I'd enjoy a last minute winner against the tans. I'd enjoy it a lot better if it was ten yards off side. And as a last minute winner versus the scum is often as early as the 26th minute before it's raining Stadium seats, I've even been there.

What I don't agree with is your statement: 'If anyone is guilty of treating friendlies like major matches it's US! ' A victory over the tans is as good as sex - even better when you reside in England - but it hardly makes us hot favourites to win the next World Cup.

Hop tip to all you share speculators out there: Put your money on any British Bookmaker (including the one named after a former Black and Tan). You'll be raking it in after the World Cup from their huge profits.

Lopez I warned you already, cop on. I don't want to see any mention of the Brits, "scum" or "the tans" (what year do you live in? ). Talk about the football or don't talk. Final warning.

[The Stars]

why was the game played in Switzerland?

[sligoman]

why was the game played in Switzerland?

Argentina asked England to play and not the other way around. As nearly all of the Agrentine squad are based in Europe there AFA based it in Europe, as they would not have been able to get Top European sides to travel to South America mid-season. Just as the Aussies did a few seasons back. Makes total sense to do it like that.....

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[lopez]

It's something I stand by completely. With the exception of posibly Celtic, I can't think of any other team whoose manager, fans and press treat results in friendlies like the most important games ever...

Well there are some that think Ireland shouldn't be at Germany because they didn't beat Switzerland. Like a God given right. Frankly I think you're exagerating.

Lopez I warned you already, cop on. I don't want to see any mention of the Brits, "scum" or "the tans" (what year do you live in?). Talk about the football or don't talk. Final warning.

Sorry mate. I'm still in 1995. Suppose you weren't born then.

[Poor Student]

Sorry mate. I'm still in 1995. Suppose you weren't born then.

No need to be like that, surely you know that isn't acceptable on foot.ie?

[lopez]

No need to be like that, surely you know that isn't acceptable on foot.ie?

PS: Nothing personal, and apologies for any out of order remarks , but you know who I'm - and indeed JoeSemi are - talking about here.

[Karlos]

Well there are some that think Ireland shouldn't be at Germany because they didn't beat Switzerland. Like a God given right. Frankly I think you're exagerating.

If I'm exagerating then that makes two of us.

Of course not every Irish fan feels like this but my point was made on the basis that some people here were disgusted that Englands fans, players and management celebrated a last minute win in the manner they did. Fact is, had it been us, it would have been the same.....I've seen the eurphoria of friendly victories in the past - Germany and Holland away, Brazil at home etc etc......I don't feel we are in a position to sneer at anyone in this regard given the significance alot (not all) of irish people place on results in friendly internationals.