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    McCartney sisters refuse to share stage with Thatcher

    McCartney sisters refuse to share stage with Thatcher
    03/11/2005 - 15:32:10

    The campaigning sisters of a murdered Belfast man today refused to share a stage with former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

    Claire and Catherine McCartney were both in London for the Women of the Year Awards.

    But they declined an accolade when they discovered Baroness Thatcher was also being honoured.

    They claimed she "inflicted injuries" on their country.

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    Double standards or what. A few short months ago, the same McCartney sisters were on every tv and radio station pontificating that they were not in any way politically motivated, opinionated or biased. This all seems a tad two-faced, and a further cry for publicity if you ask me.

    I have nothing but sympathy for them as regards what happened their brother, but he was killed by the same scum that Thatcher fought against tooth and nail.

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    Not particularly double standards imo - I wouldn't share a stage with the senile old witch either, bar to kick her in the head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy
    Not particularly double standards imo - I wouldn't share a stage with the senile old witch either, bar to kick her in the head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy
    Not particularly double standards imo - I wouldn't share a stage with the senile old witch either, bar to kick her in the head.
    I agree there ..... the auld battle-axe should have been kicked off the stage !!
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    I have no sympathy for the two faced McCartney family. Yes, it is a sad when a family member is killed by the paramilitaries, but let's remember Robert McCartney was a provo; bandits fighting amongst bandits.

    It was not long ago that the McCartneys were pro Republican movement, but as soon as they are the recieving end of violence, it is amazing how opinions change.

    Refusing to share the stage with Thatcher on it is pathetic. Regardless of whether you dislike her for whatever reason, shows that they are two faced bigots. Yes, that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glentoranfan
    It was not long ago that the McCartneys were pro Republican movement, but as soon as they are the recieving end of violence, it is amazing how opinions change.
    But were they .... were they not just ordinary people trying to get on with their lives .... "Robert McCartney was a provo" ... but weren't people/media trying to dig stuff up about this and didn't find anything. There is nothing there to say he was a provo barr rumour and labeling. Obviously i dont know but it is pointless labeling him as such if he actually wasn't.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Thatcher did so much harm to NI in her time in charge. Both sides of the divide were worse off under her iron fist.

    Compare her to the way Tony Blair and to a lesser extent John Major have treated the "NI issue".

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    Quote Originally Posted by harry crumb
    Both sides of the divide were worse off under her iron fist.
    Ahh .... i'd say everyone was worse off with her, England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales ..... There are still people waking up in cold sweats over the old bat !!
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face
    There are still people waking up over the old bat !!
    I tripped, it was an accident !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face
    But were they .... were they not just ordinary people trying to get on with their lives .... "Robert McCartney was a provo" ... but weren't people/media trying to dig stuff up about this and didn't find anything. There is nothing there to say he was a provo barr rumour and labeling. Obviously i dont know but it is pointless labeling him as such if he actually wasn't.
    It has been well documented of Robert McCartney's links to the Republican movement and his family's Republican views.

    It is funny that how when the organisation they supported turns against them (like it had many other Roman Catholic and Nationalist residents) their opinion so suddenly changes.
    Quote Originally Posted by joeSoap
    They claimed she "inflicted injuries" on their country.
    To come back on that comment, what damage where the PIRA (the organisation as to whom's cause they were sympathisers) doing to their country? Hmm. I wonder. A further example of their sheer hypocrisy.
    It is regretable that Robert McCartney's life ended in such a vile way, and that his family have now been forced from their home in the Short Strand, but because of their pro Irish Republican views, I am sorry that I can't say two things; firstly, I told you so. When you are linked to these people, trouble happens and secondly, you supported the actions of these people from the IRA's formation 1916, now they have happened to you and you don't like it.
    Quote Originally Posted by A face
    Ahh .... i'd say everyone was worse off with her, England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales ..... There are still people waking up in cold sweats over the old bat !!
    Although no Thatcherite myself, there are also a lot of people who recognised the benefits that she brought to her country. In the English press about her 80th birthday there was a huge article on what people thought about her. It was probably about 70/30 for Thatcher. Even a man who worked in the coal mines said that looking back now, he can see Britain was a better place for what she did.

    Therefore, to say that she had done no good anywhere is wrong, as would it also be incorrect to say that she has no support.

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    A thread riddled with inaccuracies. Robert McCartney was not a provo but was indeed socialising with one when he was brutally murdered.

    The Mc Cartney's republican viewpoint didn't change after the incident in fact I distinctly remembering them stating these views a few weeks after on tv

    I commend the sisters on not sharing the stage with the woman who by default killed 10 men in 1981 to show that the cathloic minority would never get their own way. What makes me laugh at this though is that they were quite prepared to shake hands with Bush a few months back. Typifies the attitude of Sinn Fein in that they see nothing outside Eire.
    Last edited by Speranza; 03/11/2005 at 8:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speranza
    I commend the sisters on not sharing the stage with the woman who by default killed 10 men in 1981 to show that the cathloic minority
    That action may be commendable, but when you consider they support a movement that killed 250+ of "its" own community, Roman Catholics, that certainly takes the shine of it.

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    When have they ever said they supported the provisionals?
    "The Derry fans were fantastic in both matches. They sang their hearts out all the time and created an even better atmosphere than the Cup Final. They were brilliant. - David Graham, Gretna striker

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    I have no time for them to be honest. I think they're just using their brother's death to gain a bit of publicity for themselves
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    What a load of garbage. Do you think this is ****ing reality tv or what?

    The provisional I.R.A. we have come to know in the last 30 years rose from the falls burning/curfews e.t.c. to protect their own community against flagrant oppression. The sisters are merely trying to show the same people as reneging on these principles and turning on their own, all they want is justice and to out the scum.

    How do you become so cynical to think they are using the murder of their brother to up themselves in the world?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speranza
    What a load of garbage. Do you think this is ****ing reality tv or what?
    You talking to me there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sligoman
    You talking to me there?

    Ahh ... yeah !! ..... feicing hell sligoman, that was some mad statement in fairness like !!
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face
    Ahh ... yeah !! ..... feicing hell sligoman, that was some mad statement in fairness like !!
    It's my opinion, it's not gonna change, I didn't expect too many people to agree with it.

    btw A face, you didn't have to spell fecking as feicing, it's not censored
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    Quote Originally Posted by glentoranfan
    Although no Thatcherite myself, there are also a lot of people who recognised the benefits that she brought to her country. In the English press about her 80th birthday there was a huge article on what people thought about her. It was probably about 70/30 for Thatcher. Even a man who worked in the coal mines said that looking back now, he can see Britain was a better place for what she did.

    Therefore, to say that she had done no good anywhere is wrong, as would it also be incorrect to say that she has no support.
    Was the Telegraph the paper by any chance? Take out her attitude to Ireland, I'd still kick her in the head on what she did to Industry, Attitude to money, Race Relations etc etc.

    That former coal miner must be equally senile, either that or he managed to get a job in one of the subsidised nuclear power stations.
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