QuoteThe Indo is a rag of the highest order. I used read it before I moved to England but I was back over for a weekend and saw a picture of Beckham and Posh on the front page. That was the straw that broke the camels back.Originally Posted by Gareth
Yeah.Still the farmers will always vote them in.
All the farmers in Lucan, Drumcondra and Dublin Central voted Lawlor, Bertie and Haughey in ffs.
Wonderful argument.
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The Indo is a rag of the highest order. I used read it before I moved to England but I was back over for a weekend and saw a picture of Beckham and Posh on the front page. That was the straw that broke the camels back.
The Indo today says the woman was a 28-year-old Ukrainian interpreter. The tabloids on Sunday were calling her a "teenage" hooker. I think the crash was on Friday night/Saturday morning? How much more time do they want to get the facts right? Why should we now believe she was an interpreter any more than that she was a hooker? Fairly damning indication of the standard of the respective papers...
The new editor is ex-Hearld editor. Nuff said.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Theres a reason its called the Sindo.
Disgraceful behaviour by the "news"papers printing a rumour as fact.
Exactly.
Time will tell. I'm sure there's many a red top beating a path to her.
A Ukrainian translating English to Russian is kind of like having an Italian translating Spanish to English ....possible -just less likely.
The Russian police were initially quite adamant she was a hooker ...I'm guessing, and I acknowledge I'm guessing, that was based on appearance and apparell.
Either way, that's a personel tragedy between him and his family.
I've been asking myself should I not feel a bit more sympathy for the man on a purely human level -but I have little more sympathy than when I've heard that some drug dealer's been whacked by another dealer.
The man was a fcuking gangster and they should stick that on his headstone.
"here lies a fcuking gangster."
He entered "public life", not out of any bullsh1t desire to serve that he used blabber on about incessantly, but out of desire to make himself a wheel that had to be greased in order to get things done.
I view such individuals in the same bracket as dealers, subversives and any other organised criminals -at best a parasite on the country and at worst as fifth columnists rotting this little country from the inside out.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
No it's not. Ukrainian and Russian are more similar, plus a lot of people in the Ukraine speak Russian as a first language.
So many papers ran the story I thought that it had to have a grain of truth. How naive am I. No matter what you think of the man the media cannot just do that.
Weren't some of them quoting a police source though? I don't buy a sunday paper, but one of the morning radio programmes said that it was backed by quotes?
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
They did. "It is reported that police have interviewed the woman and say she is likely to be a prostitute" or something along those lines. But to make such a claim the night after a man dies you'd want to bloody verify it, no?
Well I know you shouldn't ever trust the cops to tell the truth, but why would a russian cop lie to an Irish paper? He's a public figure - tough on the family, but the media isn't to blame for putting them or him in the spotlight.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Perhaps they didn't lie. Perhaps she was groggy and they put two and two together and thought she was a prostitute? The report only said they felt she was, not that they had confirmed. But this doubt did not stop the Sunday World absolutely plastering the story over the front page. I was working in a newsagents on Sunday and I can tell you any Lawlor paper sold like hot cakes. People were breaking their necks twisting to read the story when the headline made an impact as they walked by.
Its a cheap trick for the media to use headlines such as "Police say she was a hooker..." or as we had today in the tabloids "...Lawlor woman not a hooker..."
Would it be ok to have headline with say "Bertie Ahern not a paedolphile"?
I have no time for Lawlor we as a nation we are hypocrites about our political crooks. We as a nation continue to elect the likes of Lowry & Flynn but only complain about Lawlor (i'm guessing most people in Dublin knew what he up to) when the media draw attention to.
Thius country hasn't changed at all. We still continue top re-elect the Developers Party (who do FF invite to their tent at the galway races?) yet moan baoput house prices & crap quality of buildings built.
not being funny, but wasnt he in the front seat, she was a backseat passenger, surely he would have been sitting in the back if she were a prostitute. just something small to think about...
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
Most of us here aren't familiar with the standard practice when transporting your hooker, Paul, but you may have a point.
Two men have lost their lives in a tragic accident, can we not leave their families alone to grieve?
Whatever you say about Liam Lawlor, he didn't bribe himself. It takes two to tango and the fact that he's dead doesn't mean that the money men behind the major construction firms implicated in the planning tribunal are going clean up their act.
Have Boot Disk, will travel
news report i read said he was in the back
like his life, his death is shady, no ones sure of the exact details - all very mysterious - bit like lawlor himself!
I lived in Riga and Moscow for a few years and regularly travel in Eastern Europe. Western business men are regularly targets for prostitutes in both cities. They are assumed to have much more money than locals. Go into any up market hotel and the bar will be full of them. It wouldn't be unusual for cops in Moscow to assume that a woman travelling with a western business man in a cab late at night might be a hooker. They were obvioulsy wrong in this case.
Being a translator was one of the few jobs that allowed people to travel abroad during communist times in Eastern Bloc countries and they were nearly always women. Russian was the must have language in those days no matter what country you lived in and English would have come close as a third language.
When I first went to Riga with my wife we stayed in a hotel for a few months before getting an apartment. The doormen at the hotel ( a four star hotel not a dive) used to get a cut from the hookers operating in the bar by turning a blind eye to them going up stairs with the hotel's guests. A couple of times when we were coming back after a late night out a new doorman would run after us to insist that my wife give him his cut. Needless to say he got an earful of expletives from herself and was lucky not to get a smack.
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At least they do vote. All the Dubs do is moan about the state of the country and then say "I'm not wastin me bleedin time votin! Shur wot bleedin difrence duz it make!"
When you're old enough to vote, you can back whichever party you like, Aldini98.
Have Boot Disk, will travel
says the voice of democracy who wanted to ban unions and free association last week
There's nothing democratic about unions.
Have Boot Disk, will travel
Not sure if that deserves a
Probably both.
as for Lawlor.......I'm sure most of you can guess how sympathetic I am to him and his family.
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