Big fines for Harps and Dundalk

**A face** · 20/10/2005, 8:24 PM

Big fines for Harps and Dundalk

Issues of stewarding and supporter behaviour are the latest headline grabbers from the eircom League disciplinary board.
Finn Harps have been fined �1,000 "for the improper behaviour of their supporters v Derry City. The Disciplinary Commission recommended that the club increase stewarding numbers at future matches."

Harps were also fined �100 after five of their players were carded in the same game against Derry.

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**R�iteoir** · 20/10/2005, 8:40 PM

Does the phrase "Warned as to their future conduct" appear anywhere in the linked statement?

**Speranza** · 20/10/2005, 8:42 PM

Proper order

Hope this helps to bring about a complete overhaul of the security (or lack of) at the cowshed!

**Conor H** · 20/10/2005, 8:55 PM

What did the Dundalk fans do,does anyone know?.

**sligoman** · 20/10/2005, 9:03 PM

Surprised we haven't been fined over one of our stewards behaviour at our last game. Obviously no Galway official reported it

**carrickharp** · 21/10/2005, 6:42 AM

Originally Posted by Speranza

Proper order

Hope this helps to bring about a complete overhaul of the security (or lack of) at the cowshed!

WTF we were fined for your fans running onto the pitch no word of that in that report

**Dodge** · 21/10/2005, 7:21 AM

Give them time sligoman, tis the FAI after all

**Mick89** · 21/10/2005, 8:33 AM

Originally Posted by dublinharp

WTF we were fined for your fans running onto the pitch no word of that in that report

Yes, yes you were. Because it happened at YOUR ground, under YOUR stewarding arrangements.

**Cosmo** · 21/10/2005, 8:33 AM

Originally Posted by Conor H

What did the Dundalk fans do,does anyone know?.

fireworks on the pitch - i think

**OneRedArmy** · 21/10/2005, 8:40 AM

Originally Posted by dublinharp

WTF we were fined for your fans running onto the pitch no word of that in that report

I'd say you were also fined for throwing bottles and fireworks from the Town End terrace at the Derry fans. The guards were dragging away a few people from that end.

I still reckon we have a fine coming.

**joey B** · 21/10/2005, 8:41 AM

Originally Posted by Mick89

Yes, yes you were. Because it happened at YOUR ground, under YOUR stewarding arrangements.

Derry should fined as well,as Rovers fans were fined for encroachment on the pitch at Tolka park under Shelbourne's stewarding arrangements.Typical FAI no fcuking consistency

**Strabane_Harp** · 21/10/2005, 9:27 AM

just to clarify - the only fireworks and flares came from the derry city supporters, as did the first of the missiles, harps had maybe a dozen fans who reacted, derry had over a hundred on the pitch, stealing flags, provoking harps fans and openly urinating on the pitch

yet the FAI fine Finn harps despite previously saying our security arrangements were among the best in the league

unbelieveable and hopefully our board will challenge this farce all the way to the courts if they have too

**Dodge** · 21/10/2005, 9:40 AM

Pats were fined for our fans letting off flares in an away game (v Homeless) No consistency at all

**Strabane_Harp** · 21/10/2005, 9:48 AM

Derry did use flares, there not a problem even if there against ground rules

but one scumbag threw a lit firework at the harps fans being the net which rebounded off the wall and landed on the playing surface just after the goal

its a disgrace that we are being fined for the actions of a hooligan element in the derry support who normally couldnt find the brandywell never mind finn park

**OneRedArmy** · 21/10/2005, 9:50 AM

Originally Posted by Strabane_Harp

just to clarify - the only fireworks and flares came from the derry city supporters, as did the first of the missiles, harps had maybe a dozen fans who reacted, derry had over a hundred on the pitch, stealing flags, provoking harps fans and openly urinating on the pitch

Not true.
Fireworks came from both sides and over the wall from people outside.
Bottles came from your side and some were returned by the Derry fans.
I've been told one flare was thrown by the Derry fans.
Whilst a hundred may have been on the pitch, one was alleged to have urinated on it and one flag was stolen.

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

I'll repeat again, as I left the guards were trying to restrain or arrest a number of fans, none of them from Derry.

Don't get me wrong, we deserve a fine but you certainly deserve yours and trying to paint it as all our fault does you no favours.

**Strabane_Harp** · 21/10/2005, 10:03 AM

I was fully expecting a fine, but im furious that the league has not fined your club at least 3 times the amount.

The bottles came from city fans first

There were at least 4 flares used in the city crowd

The only firework inside the crowd was thrown by derry fans and landed on the pitch, it was not a flare.

And the guards responded after being asked to by the harps stewards to help move away the dozen or so idiots responding to the derry fans.
Can you actually imagine the 2 Guards trying to get into the derry crowd, in fairness it was the right option to move our lot along as it saved time and potential trouble on a larger scale

**Mr A** · 21/10/2005, 10:35 AM

In a league famous for stupid decisions this has to rank among the stupidest.

Harps were not fined for our security arrangements, but for the 'improper behaviour' of our fans.

How we end up with a big fine while Derry get nothing is a mystery. This decision will be appealed, and, in the unlikely event that there's anyone in charge with the brains they were born with, successfully so.

**Strabane_Harp** · 21/10/2005, 10:37 AM

Surely the FAI will consider the video and photographic evidence that people had the sense to take on the night?

**harpskid** · 21/10/2005, 11:12 AM

And do yis honestly think an appeal will be successful. FFS this is the eircom league we are in.

A Derry supporter openly urinated on the pitch - evidence to prove this!! Derry supporters threw missiles and had flares and should, going by a precident set by the disciplinary committee, be fined for these incidents. They should also be fined for encroaching the pitch.

I do agree that we should get the fine for inadequate security and for the missile throwing and general thuggery of our own fans, especially the wee pr!ck wearing theb Spurs top who appeared to be ejected from the ground but was then orchastrating the missile throwing from behind the Town End goals.

Why though have Derry got off scot free though?