Relegation run-in

**Dodge** · 31/10/2005, 9:11 PM

Another defeat for UCD, plus another -2 for goal difference...

**WeAreRovers** · 01/11/2005, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by sligoman

What about losing to Bray then?

It wasn't losing to Bray that dragged us back in it was the bizzarro world results from Cork and Derry. One of our lads is a bookie and he reckoned that those two results would have been priced at 150-1.

The good thing is that Rovers/Pats on Friday is a huge game now. Our derbies have been quiet enough over the last few seasons but Friday will be the first really big Dublin derby this season - ie. with something actually riding on it rather than just age old hatred. Bring it on.

KOH

**pineapple stu** · 01/11/2005, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Another defeat for UCD, plus another -2 for goal difference...

Much better performance though. If we play like that against Harps and Longford, we'll win both games.

Course, we won't play like that against either Harps or Longford...

**R�iteoir** · 01/11/2005, 12:51 PM

I wouldn't want to see St Pats go down tbh - such a sad state the club is in.

From winning the Championship in 2001-2002 to be in major trouble this season - a sad state of affairs

**Dodge** · 01/11/2005, 2:57 PM

Been in relegation trouble 3 out the last 4 years. Now that new to us. We're one of them (like Rovers and Waterford) that if we just stay up this year....

**pete** · 01/11/2005, 5:10 PM

Rovers destiny in their own hands. Hard to see Harps staying up.

**pineapple stu** · 01/11/2005, 6:26 PM

Everyone's destiny (apart from Harps) is in their own hands.

Have to say, from a neutral's point of view, this has to be one of the most exciting seasons ever? Two teams - neither of whom has won the league in the last ten years or so - neck and neck at the top and down to meet on the last day. Shels coming up with a great run of form if they slip up (and yet to meet one of the teams). At the bottom, four teams scrabbling to avoid the play-offs. Waterford staging a miraculous comeback. Rovers and UCD - who had looked safe at one stage - in trouble. Compare that to the Premiership...

**Dodge** · 05/11/2005, 9:39 AM

As it stand now...

8. Pats p31 pts33 gd-6
9. UCD p30 pts30 gd-16
10. Waterford p31 pts28 gd-21
11. Rovers p30 pts26 gd-16
12. Harps p30 pts21 gd-16

Games left;
Pats
a V Derry
h v Longford

UCD
a v Harps
a v Longford
h v Rovers

Waterford
a v Rovers
h v Drogheda

Rovers
h v Cork
h v Waterford
a v UCD

Harps
h v UCD
a v Drogheda
h v Bray

Last night's win guarantees our safety. Its complicated but the others all paying each other, they all can't get enough points to overtake us. If Harps won tonight they have a chance of overhauling Rovers...

**Passive** · 05/11/2005, 10:03 AM

Pat's are safe and we're in big trouble, there's no doubt about that.

A lot rests on tonight's fixture between Harps and UCD, there's probably no point in commenting until we have a result from that. If Harps win, they go within two points of us (albeit with an extra game played), but if they lose then I think that's them gone.

If UCD win, that'll be them safe, leaving it between Rovers and Waterford for the play-off spot, which basically means next Friday's game is winner takes all.

My nerves are shot.

**Dodge** · 05/11/2005, 10:18 AM

2 weeks ago we were 1-0 down in Waterford. If we hadn't have equalised, I honestly think we'd be relegated. Two wins later and everyone's delirious... Waterford are on a great run of form but next weeks game is a definite cup final and all the cliches will apply...

I think Harps are still going down with Waterford in the play off. For some reason I can see Rovers pulling out everything for that game (although they didn't last night for an equally important game)

**Passive** · 05/11/2005, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

For some reason I can see Rovers pulling out everything for that game (although they didn't last night for an equally important game)

It will probably help that our manager isn't currently in negotiations with Waterford about taking over the club with his buddy from Sunderland.

Maybe without such a clear conflict of interest he won't decide to sabotage the game with appalling substitutions, like he did last night.

**Dodge** · 05/11/2005, 10:53 AM

Yeah, thats what won us the game...

**HarpoJoyce** · 05/11/2005, 11:01 AM

UCD move another points towards safety after last nights results.
I believe that's all the progress we'll make this weekend.

Next week though, next week we start our come back.

**Passive** · 05/11/2005, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Yeah, thats what won us the game...

Maybe not, but you have to admit that it is suspicious. Roddy wants out of Rovers and wants into Pats - who does he want relegated then? Keep in mind that Mileson doesn't care if Rovers go down, if he takes over Pat's Roddy will be installed straight away regardless of what happens to us.

Maybe this is taking Roddy paranoia too far, but look at his substitutions last night - he takes off Roche, a fantastic kid who can score goals, and leaves on Foley, a centre-back who is completely clueless up front; then he takes off Kenny, our one creative player and the only player who can take a corner or free kick.

Maybe I'm being too harsh, maybe he's just a brutal manager.

**Dodge** · 05/11/2005, 11:26 AM

1) He is a rubbish manager
2) The players taken off were rubbish too
3) The Roddy to Pats thing is one of his bluffs. The fool thinks he's highky sought after and is angling to get abetter deal off Rovers. He actually believes his own hype. He doesn't understand that no one likes him...

**Roverstillidie** · 05/11/2005, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

1) He is a rubbish manager
2) The players taken off were rubbish too
3) The Roddy to Pats thing is one of his bluffs. The fool thinks he's highky sought after and is angling to get abetter deal off Rovers. He actually believes his own hype. He doesn't understand that no one likes him...

1) won a double once...
2) not true, beach and roche are quality creative players, why take them off as we are getting back into the match? poor decision and more than a bit dubious.
3) keep thinking that. there is no dangeer whatsoever of him getting a new/better offer from rovers. absolutley none whatsoever.
if a multi-millionaire wants to build you a stadium and put millions into the club, you will say no because roddy is involved?!? get real. the story ISNT coming from rod for once. be sure, mileson means business

**Rebal Boy** · 05/11/2005, 12:22 PM

I know Pats are safe now, but I just hope they do us a favour next week by taking a point off Derry. Is that game on Friday, Sunday or Monday does anyone know? I hope it will be on the Sunday. Sundays are boring enough as it is.

**Dodge** · 05/11/2005, 12:23 PM

1) So you think he's a good manager?
2) LMAO.
3) I know Rovers want him out but I was saying what i think he's doing... Trust me, Roddy will NOT be manager of Pats next year.

**Dodge** · 05/11/2005, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Rebal Boy

I know Pats are safe now, but I just hope they do us a favour next week by taking a point off Derry. Is that game on Friday, Sunday or Monday does anyone know? I hope it will be on the Sunday. Sundays are boring enough as it is.

Confirmed for Saturday 5pm