ill be looking out for Australia i suppose , Spain , Germany cos i might put a few quid on them to win and maybe England cos i like a few of their players.
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
If you are a Hibs supporter then I would expect you to be cheering for the Scots judging by your own logic
If not then surely supporting a club doesn't obligate anyone to support the national team of where that club is based??!!!
Very narrow minded....
"Inflatable hammers and Leprechaun suits, & a chorus of "Here we go" or Olé, Olé"....
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in case you didnt notice the Scots didnt qualifyIf you are a Hibs supporter then I would expect you to be cheering for the Scots judging by your own logic
If not then surely supporting a club doesn't obligate anyone to support the national team of where that club is based??!!!
Very narrow minded....and im sure if they did then he wouldnt be cheering for their opposition in every game
I'm sure you realise the point I was trying to make though!in case you didnt notice the Scots didnt qualify
Have you taken on the role fending off logical arguments for Hibs4Ever then as well....god, you must have nothing better to do...well for some!
(note the small G in case "some people" view this as an insult to atheists - coz that's how ridiculous this site is becoming! - free speech on the internet my hole!)
"Inflatable hammers and Leprechaun suits, & a chorus of "Here we go" or Olé, Olé"....
If you are a Hibs supporter then I would expect you to be cheering for the Scots judging by your own logic
If not then surely supporting a club doesn't obligate anyone to support the national team of where that club is based??!!!
Very narrow minded....
Yes I do support the Scots when they play, even more so now as they average 5 or 6 Hibs players in every squad. I support the Scottish league, I'm not a hypocrite
If you need anymore help just tell me what it is you don't understand and I'll try help you out!
Last edited by Hibs4Ever; 13/12/2005 at 7:51 AM.
Would love some "help" as you put itYes I do support the Scots when they play, even more so now as they average 5 or 6 Hibs players in every squad. I support the Scottish league, I'm not a hypocrite
If you need anymore help just tell me what it is you don't understand and I'll try help you out!
My question was:
"..... supporting a club doesn't obligate anyone to support the national team of where that club is based??!!!
What's the rationale against this exactly? Detailed answer required to "help" me out!!!
"Inflatable hammers and Leprechaun suits, & a chorus of "Here we go" or Olé, Olé"....
In supporting an ENGLISH club, you are supporting ENGLISH league, and ENGLISH players, and when you support the club in Europe you are cheering on European succes to ENGLAND. So when you say you support EVERYONE who plays AGAINST ENGLAND it makes you a hypocriteWould love some "help" as you put it
My question was:
"..... supporting a club doesn't obligate anyone to support the national team of where that club is based??!!!
What's the rationale against this exactly? Detailed answer required to "help" me out!!!
Bottom line is you don't go and support your rivals,do you support Hearts when they are in Europe as you say you support the Scots league??,how many supporters of different English clubs wanted Man utd to fail last week and some of the same supporters will be following England in the Summer.Thats football,get over it, not everybody that follows the English leagues wants the national team to do well and that includes many English,why should the Irish be different.
MOT
WHAT is your comparison here? That I should support Hearts!! WHY? What link do Hibernian have with them thats so great that I should support hearts??? I really don't get your point here
You say you support the Scottish league,Hearts are in the Scottish league the last time I looked anyway, and are Hibs biggest rivals are they not?.So by your theory if Hearts where playing in Europe all Scottish league followers (including their rivals Hibs)should support Hearts.My point is you cannot jump on the bandwagon and start to support your nearest rivals no matter what club or country.I follow Leeds and will not be supporting England in the World cup, and you'll find it's club over country for most English aswell.WHAT is your comparison here? That I should support Hearts!! WHY? What link do Hibernian have with them thats so great that I should support hearts??? I really don't get your point here
MOT
In supporting an ENGLISH club, you are supporting ENGLISH league, and ENGLISH players, and when you support the club in Europe you are cheering on European succes to ENGLAND. So when you say you support EVERYONE who plays AGAINST ENGLAND it makes you a hypocrite
That's a pathetic, childish and naive argument to make!
How you can make the leap from supporting a club through "supporting...English palyers" to the "cheering on European success to England" is nothing short of startling! You're vision is very blurred my friend - you are clouding a very simply issue by clutching to you're perception that people cannot differenciate between a club and a country. It is you who needs "help".
If I supported Bolton should I not be support all the national teams of all their international players? By you're ill-thought through suggestion the answer must be yes! The amount of foreign players in the Premiership now is phenomenal so you're "English players" thing falls flat on it's face!
You're opinion on this is so black and white (support club therefore must support country) that it only serves to show how A) you have not thought it through properly of B) you aren't capable of A).
"Inflatable hammers and Leprechaun suits, & a chorus of "Here we go" or Olé, Olé"....
For me will have to be T&T as they have taken NI mantle as the smallest nation to have ever qualified. And also because you like to see the small teams do well and hopefully a wee upset against England can occur.
Fact remains despite all those foreign players you would still be supporting an english club
And....? This has to do with supporting the national side does it?
Hibs4Ever used the "English players" as part of HIS argument!
I think it's a hollow argument but if you get your kicks out of HIS arguments (and esp. defending them) then knock yourself out buddie
"Inflatable hammers and Leprechaun suits, & a chorus of "Here we go" or Olé, Olé"....
And....? This has to do with supporting the national side does it?
Hibs4Ever used the "English players" as part of HIS argument!
I think it's a hollow argument but if you get your kicks out of HIS arguments (and esp. defending them) then knock yourself out buddie
HIS arguement from HIS very first post is that it is still supporting an ENGLAND club, therefore ENGLAND football. Really don't understand what you don't get here
Don't worry about it son...we'll agree to disagree on the whole thing! Though I couldn't help noticing you're avatar is FAI and you would suggest the Swiss and Ingerland as rivals for the ROI
when the Scots are playing again I'll look out for the Hibs supporter wearing a kilt in Inchicore then!!
"Inflatable hammers and Leprechaun suits, & a chorus of "Here we go" or Olé, Olé"....
Don't worry about it son...we'll agree to disagree on the whole thing! Though I couldn't help noticing you're avatar is FAI and you would suggest the Swiss and Ingerland as rivals for the ROI
when the Scots are playing again I'll look out for the Hibs supporter wearing a kilt in Inchicore then!!
Of course its FAI crest
Anyway, as you say, we'll agree to disagree
Many people on here have tried to twist and turn this to somehow suit their own ridiculous arguments.
It's familiar to me because I've heard it so many times.
Usually I just ignore them or change the subject to something less tiresome, such as the weather.
There are a couple of simple facts here.
Supporting an English football club and then actively supporting any team who plays against England makes you a hypocrite!
No one expects that you should support England simply because you own a Liverpool pencil case, but others are entitled to take exception to the vehemence with which you purport your anti England sentiments.
England has been mentioned as a rival to us but those unfortunates failed to read the topic title or simply ignored the fact that Ireland haven't qualified for the World Cup 2006. We're a rival to no one and no one a rival to us.
The good people of England don't need your "support" but I certainly hope, for the sake of our reputation as a nation, that they never hear your opinion.
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As I have always been interested in English football I will be cheering them on for the World Cup.
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