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    If Aldridge takes over the job he will be getting an average squad. Itll take 2 or 3 years to build up the squad but by then we will be back here discussing who will be taking over from Aldridge as he certainly wouldnt be able to guide us to Euro 08. If kerr couldnt do it with them i cant see anyone else capable..

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    The highest ranked team Kerr has beaten in three years in charge in a competitive match was Albania. He's had his time and made an absolute balls of it. This is the worst qualification campaign from an Irish team in living memory - fourth in a group of no hopers with the exception of France. At least Mc Carthy always got us into a play-off place with far worse players than Kerr had at his disposal on many an occasion.

    Kerr needs to go as soon as possible. Looking back he should never have been given the job in the first place. What relevant managerial experience did he have? You are not pitting your wits against the top managers in the world at youth level or in the Irish league. Hopefully the FAI will learn from their mistakes and pay the money to get someone decent to replace him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
    That wasnt the Roy.Keane performance of 3-4 years ago. It was a more measured performance and france did have a weak midfield.
    A weak midield with Zidane, Makelele, Viera !? RMK deservedly won MoM - pity its likely to have been his last game for us.
    Together with all our hearts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schumi
    Mid-table in divison 1 (or was it still divsion 2 at the time?), hardly a stellar performance.
    Tranmere are a very small team - they were only then trying to emerge from the shadows of Everton and Liverpool (they've grown their fanbase since then). Mid-table Division One and an FA Cup semi is very good for them. Look at them now!

    I'm not saying he's brilliant. I'm saying he's not a "complete manager (sic) novise (sic)"

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
    i would rather have kerr than Alridge. Alridge will never qualify for a major championship
    And you've seen something to suggest that Kerr would?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peadar
    Mick jumped ship when he could see the team in decline.
    Kerr took on the job and did his best with what he had.
    As I recall, it wasn't so much he jumped as he was pushed.

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    [QUOTE=thejollyrodger]

    Mick got far more time than KErr and had far better players, Same with Jacko. Your either blind as a bat or just ignoring one major point.

    Won't bother adding any more to those posts that have pointed out why McCarthy got longer and Kerr didn't. But Charlton? More time? First run out under him we qualified, no? Maybe I'm just blind as a bat though.

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    well I still think Kerr should be given more time. I dont think another manger will work miracles
    Last edited by thejollyrodger; 14/10/2005 at 5:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
    well I still think Kerr should be given more time. I dont think another manger will work miracles
    I agree with you ,people are too quick to blame the manager ,I know our last few performances werent up to scratch ,But it wasnt just the managers faulth

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    agree with ye the group was very tight and the difference between 1st and 4th was just the result of one game . i would give brian one more campaign and see how it is then

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
    well I still think Kerr should be given more time. I dont think another manger will work miracles
    Not with the current crop of players anyway!

    One thing we should remember is that the Irish job has been 'downgraded' now we are a fourth seed for the 2008 Euro Champs and there is hardly likely to be a queue of top managers looking to take it on.

    Bryan Robson and Peter Reid cannot get club jobs in England and are not what you would call successful managers. Giving either of those the job would show a complete lack of ambition.

    Talk of Bobby Robson and Ron Atkinson is laughable, both has-beens and not likely to bring anything new to the party or are hardly likely to command the respect of the players.

    If Martin O'Neill was to take an international job, is it not likely to be England rather than us.

    The notion of Ferguson and Keane as a 'dream team' is something I find repulsive after Keane's Saipan antics and Ferguson spending years trying to discourage Keane and others from playing for Ireland. One maniac and one egotistical a**hole is hardly the ideal solution.

    David O'Leary, who would probably do a good job for us, has said he is not interested at this stage. Who else is available? George Graham would be a good choice but is hardly likely to want it.

    Qualifying for Euro 2008 will be difficult, can't see a queue wanting to take it on. Personally, I would stick with Kerr. I am sure he knows he made mistakes and will learn from it, particularly the player loyalty aspect.
    Honest! I am not a secret Tim nor a closet Sham - I really am a Seagull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donadoni
    I think I'd like Aldridge. I'm not sure. It's a gut choice more than a reasoned one to be honest. I'm upset.
    I'm upset too & its because you are suggesting Aldridge... Seriously Aldridge?....Aldridge?

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    i find it hard to take any1 who suggests Aldridge seriously

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    The media are saying that the FAI (they must have leaked it) arent too keen on O Leary and if MON wont take the job as it now seems he wont who will the FAI get ??

    I think everyone in ireland has an inflated opinion of how good ireland really is. The RMK factor inflated the teams results for years.

    Kerr has a proven record with irish players at underage level. He was one goal away from the play offs and even if we dont qualify for the EURO 2008 i think he will leave irish soccer in brilliant health

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    I had faith in Kerr and was prepared to overlook what happened against Israel at home(Israel away was the killer) because we laid siege to the israeli goal and just couldn't score. Any other day it could easily have been 5-2. He deserved the benefit of the doubt on those games and there was only a kick of a ball in it against the French.

    However last Wednesday when everyone in Lansdowne road could see that Jos and Carr were having a nightmare he did not make changes at half time when they should have been made. Finan in for Carr and S Reid on for Jos with Kilbane going into the middle of the park with Holland. Andy on the left and S Reid on the right.
    We all know what he did do with substitutions so I won't even bother going into that.
    I am no expert but to me those changes were obvious. We could have gone straight at the Swiss from the off and brought Elliot on with about 15 minutes to go.
    Tactically he made a nuts off it and I would like to see him replaced but like Mark Lawrenson says, only with someone who can offer more than he can.
    There'll be snow on that one.

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    that is a good point... only replace kerr with someone who is definitely better. If they can find someone who is better and can afford him then defintely get rid of KErr.

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