QuoteGood post but you lost me at the end. What does John Aldridge bring to the table? We should go for broke and try and attract a top-class manager rather than a medicore English manager.
Hell, why not Ronnie Whelan or Kevin Moran?
In a post match interview Kerr implied that the team was developing in the right direction. IMO since the Paris game the team has been playing progressively worse and worse. Worryingly only our goal-keeper is improving.
Yes we need to develop new talent. Yes Kerr has a proven record for developing young players but surely that task is the under-21 coach's job! Kerr hasn't been able to transfer his youth experience and success to the management of the senior team.
He has shown far too much loyalty to certain players. You can't blame Keane for being picked but you can blame Kerr for picking him despite the fact that his current form is pretty dire.
There is less margin for error as an international coach. There are more do or die games and 70% of your performance has to be based on these games. In last night's do or die game Kerr failed. We needed goals, the off-form players he picked were not performing we had no shots-on-goal in the first half, at home against Switzerland!!! Not one shot on goal! Yet Kerr changes nothing! Incredible. Then he waits almost half-an-hour in the second half before swapping a striker for a striker. Then with 5 minutes to go another striker for a taller striker.
Developing young players yes, Kerr gets the thumbs up. How to use these young players? No a huge thumbs down. Embarrassingly so.
I understand Kerr's paid around 400.000 a year. His management of last night's game was abysmal. He has to be judged on the management of these key games. But even if we're more generous and judge him over the entire campaign we see overly cautious tactics lose us four points against Israel and almost two points against Cyprus!
I like Kerr, but I honestly don't think he's up to the job. I don't think he should be given time just because McCarthy and Charlton were given time. I don't think he should be given time just because the easy answer is to fire the coach and we don't want to be like the English or Italians.
The Irish job is one of the most generous in the world game. There have been only three coaches in the last 19 years. You have to make a real hash of it not to be given a second chance or third chance. I think Kerr has made a real hash of it. And unlike McCarthy, he shows no sign of learning from mistakes.
When Charlton left I felt the time was right and I felt he'd deserved a shot at Euro 96, I wouldn't have pushed him sooner.
When McCarthy left I felt the time was right and that he too had deserved his second chances. Again I wouldn't have pushed him sooner.
Now I think the time is right for Kerr. He hasn't earned the right to a second chance.
I think I'd like Aldridge to take the job.
Good post but you lost me at the end. What does John Aldridge bring to the table? We should go for broke and try and attract a top-class manager rather than a medicore English manager.
Hell, why not Ronnie Whelan or Kevin Moran?
There is no such thing as a miracle cure, a free lunch or a humble opinion.
The team has been playing worse becuase the players were sick to death of reading all the muck printed in the newspaper. Just ask S.Reid or C.Morrsion. It did the team no good whatsoever and looking back on it now it was childish.
Mick got far more time than KErr and had far better players, Same with Jacko. Your either blind as a bat or just ignoring one major point. Apart from Duff (who is only a winger) Given (who is only a keeper) everyone else is a journey man. That includes Robbie keane, A.Ried, Josh, the whole lot.
Back in his day Roy Keane pushed the whole team forward. Now we are missing that are finding our natural level. Time for a reality check... i dont really like or hate kerr but firing him doesnt really square a circle.
Aldridge?? After all that you want Aldridge??Originally Posted by Donadoni
He's hardly a proven manager.
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I agree, the thing is that we one could argue that McCarthy was given time while his team failed to qualify for a Euro or World Cup before 2002, his teams did finish 2nd and got to the playoffs. Under Kerr, the team has regressed, first finishing 3rd in the Euro 2004 quallies and now 4th. Plus, the two groups were not exactly world beaters, the euros with Russia and Switzerland and we saw how good they were at the Euro 2004 finals. And then France, not so much a great "team", more a "collection" of individually gifted players.
"Jacques Santini...will be greeted in every dugout of the country by "one-nil, one-nil" - Clive Tyldsley, 89th minute of France-England June 13, 2004.
"Ooooohhhh Nooooooo" Bobby Robson 91st minute.
There are no other proven managers bar Mick & Jack. I want Mick back to be honest but I doubt he'd leave The Black Cats at the mo. All the other Irish that are available aren't up to the job I don't think.
"I always likened him to a Rolls Royce. You just used him once a week & he'd be flawless"
Townsend on McGrath
Don't be silly.
If players are influenced by what's in the papers, they're idiots. I can ignore the tabloids, surely they can too?
Mick got more time because he got into the play-offs. He did not have far better players. Look at the 2002 WC team which knocked out a European Championship semi-finallist and missed out on winning the group on goal difference to another -
Given
Kelly
Cunninghan
Breen
Harte
Keane
McAteer
Kinsella
Kilbane
Duff
Keane
Kerr had all those players bar Kelly, McAteer and Kinsella. We've got Finnan/Carr, Andy Reid and Kavanagh/Holland to replace them. I'd say the two squads are roughly equal. The big difference is that the players played at the next level up under McCarthy. We have missed Roy Keane though.
I think I'd like Aldridge. I'm not sure. It's a gut choice more than a reasoned one to be honest. I'm upset. I can see players responding positively to him certainly more so than they did to Kerr. I'm assuming O'Neill is out of the picture. And yes not going for an English-style manager would be nice for a change but language could prove a problem. A top-class coach with good working English.
I can't take any comments seriously when Aldridge is suggested as a replacement. What next...Ray Houghton as his assistant?
Kerr gets criticised for his lack of experience but people suggest complete manager novises as alternatives.
Martin O Neill is a non runner so.
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Aldridge isn't a complete managerial novice. He had a good spell at Tranmere, I think taking them to the FA Cup semi or the League Cup Final and mid-table safety - he was responsible for one of their Cup runs anyway. He eventually got sacked when Tranmere were bottom of Division One with absolutely no money. He showed a good knack for being able to get his players to play well above themselves on the big days (Cup days). If you consider that Ireland will play 12 games in the next qualifiers, six of which will be against fairly poor teams we'd be expected to beat and six against teams better than or equal to us, there's a good parallel there.
I don't know if he'd be right for the job, but he certainly has some credentials.
mick got into the play offs because he had Roy keane. who had kerr got ? Josh, Kavanagh and Holland ? Hardly a likely comparison
Who had Kerr got? Roy Keane, last time I looked.
Mick jumped ship when he could see the team in decline.
Kerr took on the job and did his best with what he had.
Have Boot Disk, will travel
Nice one..that sums up the point against those who have been saying kerr has not had the same players...
come on lads, all of us know kerr got an old man who needs a walking stick on the pitch. Roy is well past it. Cant see him kicking another ball again.
And you were watching what game when the rest of us were watching Ireland-France?
That wasnt the Roy.Keane performance of 3-4 years ago. It was a more measured performance and france did have a weak midfield.
Mid-table in divison 1 (or was it still divsion 2 at the time?), hardly a stellar performance. Aldridge is exactly the kind of no-mark we'll end up with though.
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
i would rather have kerr than Alridge. Alridge will never qualify for a major championship
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