Northern Ireland V Wales

[dcfcsteve]

I should have been clearer, this stipulation applies only where players do not satisfy the ancestry criteria (grandparent or more recent.) Needless to say, none of the putative Brazilian defectors was of Qatari extraction.

Got ya.

I guess this is how Deco got his Portuguese cap (although he may have been living in Portugal long enough to qualigy for a passport anyway....).

[Lionel Ritchie]

I should have been clearer, this stipulation applies only where players do not satisfy the ancestry criteria (grandparent or more recent.) Needless to say, none of the putative Brazilian defectors was of Qatari extraction.

Bit of a pity really -I can just see John Motsons and the English tabs armoury of jingoisms enhanced with such witicisms as "ENGLANDS WORLD ROCKED BY ELECTRIC QATAR"

[Castle Barracks]

Phew,what confusion!Am I glad that,if I were a footballer,I would only have dual alleigance to Ireland & Wales!

[holidaysong]

Bit of a pity really -I can just see John Motsons and the English tabs armoury of jingoisms enhanced with such witicisms as "ENGLANDS WORLD ROCKED BY ELECTRIC QATAR"

I'll be laughing about that for the rest of the day..

[dcfcsteve]

Bit of a pity really -I can just see John Motsons and the English tabs armoury of jingoisms enhanced with such witicisms as "ENGLANDS WORLD ROCKED BY ELECTRIC QATAR"

Is it true their national flag-carrying aviation provider is called 'Air Qatar'....?

[big p from owc]

24hrs later Big P, and I am still absolutely raging at your completely unfounded allegation that I "clearly have no time for Prods full stop".

For some reason, I am unable to edit my last message on this thread (I sense the hand of the moderators), so I'm forced to post a new message to add the following.

Below is a list of views I have expressed on foot.ie over the last few months. They are there on the record to be checked. I would like you to consider whether these can in any way be attributed to someone who is "clearly" anti-protestant. If you're keen enough to cast mud in my direction, hopefully you'll be man enough to admit if the following counters this unfounded view you have attributed to me.

- I stated that I would like to see the 12th of July become a national holiday in the Republic, with marches and events in Dublin and elsewhere to celebrate such a huge event in the history of Ireland and, indeed, Europe. Posted in an off-topic thread in July (see here : http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=2719...ight=12th+july ).
- I said that Protestants in the Republic should be entitled to British passports/citizenship if they so wish, to reflect their dual-heritage.
- I said that I would like to see the IRFU use a 'neutral' flag (e.g. shamrocks over rugby ball), instead of the Irish tricolour.
- I posted an article regarding the linguistic rights of the overwhelmingly protestant Gaidhlig speaking population of Scotland.

If the above are the trademarks of someone who "clearly has no time for prods" then Ian Paisley could at-best only be described as mildly sympathic to the Unionist cause....

steve your savage & unprovoked verbal assaults on the northern ireland fans and the running of our game despite (by your own admission) not visiting windsor park in over a quarter of a century really leaves me raging also .

it's sooo easy to sit and scoff from afar and make unrealistic demands and pretend that if certain changes were made that you and/or other nationalists would perhaps start supporting owc again BUT we all know this is highly unlikely, IMO if a person is minded to constantly go out of thier way to be offended then no amount of wooing will ever be enough to change thier mind .

i will apologise (as i am not here to offend anybody) & take back the NO TIME FOR PRODS comment but i will replace it with a NO TIME FOR NORTHERN IRELAND (UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES) comment !!!

this i believe to be accurate of yourself and many many other nationalists who always seek to critisize us but under no circumstances would they ever support us.

take a look at this mate , not everybody thinks we are such a scarey or unwelcoming bunch.

http://ourweecountry.ipbhost.com/ind...showtopic=9823

one quick question steve , when we move to our new stadium at the maze will you be supporting us then ? surely catholics will not be scared to travel there ? after all the main objection is always that WP is located in the village area of belfast , so what then will be the objections put forward for not supporting your country ?

the flag , the anthem , singing songs .


THE FLAG.

the flag is the FIFA recognised flag of northern ireland as the welsh , the scots & the english have thier own ondividual flags of thier respective countries.

THE ANTHEM.

GSTQ is the national anthem of the united kingdom of great britain & northern ireland , FACT . so how about following the lead of irish rugby and also adopt another anthem to be played alongside GSTQ ? an anthem for all and simply not for "one side of the community" . WOULD THIS BE ACCEPTABLE IN THE INTERESTS OF ACCOMODATING EACH OTHER ? or would the mere presense of a song paying tribute to the british queen be so offensive that any catholic/nationalist listening to it in the stadium might immediatly turn to dust ?

SONGS.

sectarian songs have all but gone from OWC games , there are however still a few superprods who try to keep it going BUT they are the last of a dying breed & as quickly as these songs start they are quickly put down by the real fans , the singing of no surrender during the national anthem is disgusting IMO but because there is a moments silence between the verses, sitting at home it probably sounds like everybody is singing it , I CAN ASSURE YOU THIS IS NOT THE CASE . i said in previous posts that the job of erradicating this cannot be done overnight but the fight to stop it will go on .

to sum up things i think that yes more can be done (and is being done) to make our games more inclusive for all but when all we get is sniping & critisisim for trying to make changes then it makes the task all the more harder THEN on top of that you have these people who we know will never be happy NO MATTER WHAT IS DONE TO IMPROVE THINGS .

the northern ireland football team is not to blame for the political troubles in this country yet politics are constantly brought into any debate about the team , people IMO who do this need to take a good long hard look at themselves.