QuoteMe, Schumi, Tetzhun1979 (sp), Drumcondra Red and Pete (this will convinve him Im sureOriginally Posted by mandrake
) are going along.
I thought of going but O'Donovan (he will still be qualified next season) not starting & little chance of coming off the bench so going to skip it.
Me, Schumi, Tetzhun1979 (sp), Drumcondra Red and Pete (this will convinve him Im sure
As I say, we're just young & a bit nieve.
You've been listening to Ozo to much ! Football is all about winning, no matter at what age group, get the winning mentality at a young age
Bad teams dont have good players, but this u21 team has good players but bad results. Get rid of the weakest link!
Dont cod yourself about this being for thier development. Its not going to make them better players, none of Citys players came back any better or worse. Its about getting tehm ready for the full team, and unless we want a senior team of losers, we should have a u21 manager who wins games and qualifys for competitions!
As I say, we're just young & a bit nieve.
In all fairness not being smart but lads playing at under 8's should not be told it's all about winning as clearly at stage of their development it's not
I had read you post wrong initially ... i agree with you Rafa !!
People should go and have a look at the FAI Training and Development plans there and come back and comment then ..... a few million quid spent on it and experts working on it .... i am most definitely taking their word on this over all of yours !!
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The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
Who mentioned u-8's. I thought we talking about U21s?
Would've gone in, but it's lashing and I have numerous blisters after walking around Cyprus in hiking boots...
And we're losing already... Degen after 13 minutes. 27 mins gone now.
The Irish U-21s ended the European Championship qualifiers with their best performance for over a year and one that offers hope for the future.
Switzerland opened the scoring on 13 minutes when Stephan Lichtsteiner's cross into the area was met by David Degen who fired to the net.
Ireland fought back and could have drawn level but for Swiss 'keeper Diego Benaglio making a fine save from Steven Ward before the break.
Willo Flood and Jay Tabb went close for Ireland in the second half but they couldn't find the goal they deserved.
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Ok, surely that seals it for Givens? The man is a disgrace and it's time for him to go
Life without Rovers, it makes no sense...it's a heartache...nothing but a fools game. S.R.F.C.
If you on Uefa.com can see that only about 5 teams in whole qualification series had less points than Ireland.
I went in the end but didn't think great irish performance. Defending was poor & while we tried Switzerland were comfortable.
If Givens was from cork there would'nt be half the complaints. The U21s won a trophy last season and had a 13 match unbeaten run. In fairness to Givens he did give Crowe a cap which all EL fans were looking for and he has consistently capped EL players.
While winning is everything surely his job is to bring players through? Having said that any ideas on who his successor would be?
Also boez had a player playing last night for his country. Think they would have brought a few flags? Na a minnow club for sure. BTW one Rovers flag and an Athlone one there so fair play.
KOHLK
Shut up ya clown ... we could say the same about Roy Keane (but theres a difference, Cork people make up their won minds, maybe Dubs should do the same) ..... Don Givens is a failure and people like you enable him to stay where he is !!
You are dragging Irish football down !!
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
Refer to name calling when you dont have a clue: "People like me enable him to stay where he is"
Yeah I'm sure you could say a lot about traitor alright
KOH
There's plenty of people from Cork who dont like Keane, where Givens is from doesnt matter, his inability to do a good job and the BS that he comes out with is why people want him to go. Its more obvious now more than ever that we need good young players coming through from the u21s, but any player that does make it through is despite, and not because or, Givens. Give Kerr the job.Yeah I'm sure you could say a lot about traitor alright
As I say, we're just young & a bit nieve.
Not a bad idea. But would Kerr accept a demotion so to speak??
KOH
Ahh ... read back along there willya .... you're then one who first came out with "If Givens was from cork there would'nt be half the complaints."
I replied to it, giving it the contempt it deserves .... stop trying to drag it off topic. Givens is pathetic and has not supported the senior team properly in his 6 years at U21s ... It is so blantantly obvious that he has failed now ..... and you still defend him ?????????
What would you even be bothered ????
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
Balance that out with the fact that, in the entire World Cup qualifying campaign, only Estonia, Luxembourg, San Marino, Azerbaijan and Cyprus got fewer points than us. Granted, we were in the smallest group, but 5 points from 8 games is woeful. So were the performances. While I don't really expect us to match France at this level (and the 2-1 defeat in Cork was a hammering in disguise), you don't expect us to draw against Cyprus, pick up one point against Israel and none against Switzerland, all while playing the most inept style of football imaginable. The players have looked like they don't know each other. I don't know how this is supposed to prepare them for the senior team.
Kerr would be a good U-21 appointment (never had that one before, did he?), but I seriously doubt he'd take it. Or that he'd be offered it, to be honest.
Beats the dole queue
As I say, we're just young & a bit nieve.
I hate replying to you and Cop On (maybe a relative?) because it acknowledges your existence.Ahh ... read back along there willya .... you're then one who first came out with "If Givens was from cork there would'nt be half the complaints."
I replied to it, giving it the contempt it deserves .... stop trying to drag it off topic. Givens is pathetic and has not supported the senior team properly in his 6 years at U21s ... It is so blantantly obvious that he has failed now ..... and you still defend him ?????????
What would you even be bothered ????
I wasnt dragging it off topic and I'm not defending him. If you even read my initial post I did ask who would be his successor
I think that like Kerr he's getting far too much abuse. Over the last year, yes the results have been not good enough so instead of name calling, which shows you cant debate constructively, how about giving solutions and answers?
KOH
We have! Fire his ass!
As I say, we're just young & a bit nieve.
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