If we all finish on 19 points?

**Stuttgart88** · 06/10/2005, 1:15 PM

Originally Posted by Tipp Townie

I dunno, i think Israel finish 2nd if France beat Switzerland and us and the Swiss draw?

The key for Israel qualifying is a draw in IRL vs SWITZ. Any other result in that game & they're out. And even if it is a draw in Dublin a draw between Switz & France will mean they need to beat Faroes 7-0. They are the only team for whom qualification is out of their own hands. On that basis I'd prefer to be us than them I suppose.

**elroy** · 06/10/2005, 1:30 PM

Cheers Stuttgart,
The more I look at this the better I think a french win would be for us, I just cant see us beating the Swiss by two goals at home. Therefore, its better if the Swiss come here needing a win rather than a draw, so allez les bleus on sat me thinks.

**shakermaker1982** · 06/10/2005, 4:33 PM

Yeah the French to win would make it a lot easier for us and mean the Swiss have to attack next Wednesday instead of holding out for a draw.

**boysingreen** · 07/10/2005, 12:24 AM

If the Swiss beat the French, a 2-0 v. Swiss win will see us top the group. However, a 1-0 win and we wouldn't even get the playoff spot right?

**tricky_colour** · 07/10/2005, 2:09 AM

I think I will have to conceed that it is all far to complicated for me to fully understand

Makes integral calculus theory look simple.
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Integral.html

A piece of p*ss in comparison

**Stuttgart88** · 07/10/2005, 7:06 AM

Originally Posted by boysingreen

If the Swiss beat the French, a 2-0 v. Swiss win will see us top the group. However, a 1-0 win and we wouldn't even get the playoff spot right?

Not really - check above.

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

If Switzerland bts France 2-1 [or 3-2...] and we beat Switzerland 1-0 [or 2-1...] we'll need to beat Cyprus by at least the same margin as France beat them [or else we're 3rd]. But France are at home to Cyprus so this'd be unlikely.

If we beat Swiss 1-0 and Swiss bt France 1-0 we'd need a 5 goal margin in Cyprus to win the group. If we beat Cyprus 6-2 it'd be a play-off at a neutral venue between us & the Swiss I think!

If we beat Swiss by more than they beat the French we win the Group. If we both win by two goals we also win the group.

A 2-0 win vs Switzerland guarantees min. second place and wins the group unless the Swiss beat the French by 3-0 or, of course, France gets anything from the Swiss game.