QuoteYou are off the mark there, personally I don't think thats a realistic assessment. I'd prefer to be positive at least untill these games are over. There is NOTHING gained in knocking the manager now.Originally Posted by mypost
BK has my full support, all i see in todays papers is Bryan Robsons name as a viable alternative.......that can only be considered a very bad joke
You are off the mark there, personally I don't think thats a realistic assessment. I'd prefer to be positive at least untill these games are over. There is NOTHING gained in knocking the manager now.
You know the usual story against Cyprus; BK spends the week drooling over the opposition's "qualities"...we have key players missing...they have nothing to lose...we score first...then defend...then throw the lead away. We can't score again...final whistle goes... we're out.
I haven't just started knocking BK, I've been doing it since he, (and it was he alone who), threw 4 points away against Israel, and I have seen nothing in the games since then, to suggest that that damage and the other advantages thrown away, will be repaired. That's what the FAI are probably thinking too.
The English Sun reported today, that Roy Keane could be our next coach for the Austria/Switzerland qualifiers, as player-boss. Unlikely, but a better prospect than Brian Robson.
If people adopt the attitude of the Independent group of newspapers then their reports will become self-fulfilling prophesies. Support BK and the team especially when those of you with tickets for the Swiss game get to Lansdowne Road. Because failure to pick up 6 points in these games will see Ireland missing the play-off boat entirely.You know the usual story against Cyprus; BK spends the week drooling over the opposition's "qualities"
I haven't just started knocking BK, I've been doing it since he, (and it was he alone who), threw 4 points away against Israel, and I have seen nothing in the games since then, to suggest that that damage and the other advantages thrown away, will be repaired. That's what the FAI are probably thinking too.
The English Sun reported today, that Roy Keane could be our next coach for the Austria/Switzerland qualifiers, as player-boss. Unlikely, but a better prospect than Brian Robson.
It looks to me like John Delaney has decided he wants Kerr out, which to my mind is a disgrace in the middle of a qualifying campaign. Remember Delaney is the man who wanted to give the job to Bryan Robson. The journalists haven't been much better. Paul Hyland in the Herald is a particularly bad offender, everything that guy writes should come with a bul****t warning. Cathal Dervan is complete poison as well. He's never gotten over the fact that his "mate" Mick McCarthy walked the plank. Seemingly Kerr wouldn't talk to the media this evening, serves them right.
Acording to NewsTalk 106, he just stayed and answered a few questions, then Paddy Kenny and Kevin Doyle came out to answer questions. This did seem to cause dismay in the journalists, as the 2 lads would be considered fringe players, and not someone they wanted to ask questions of. I'd be shocked if any of the main players in the squad speak to the media before saturday.
I fully support BK and hope he gets us to the WC, as people have said he has worked tirelessly down the years for Irish football. My expectations of the print media is low, so nothing there surprises me. Funny old week what with Stevie Ireland saying he would never play under Kerr, you gotta laugh at the timing.
The FAI's handling of the whole lot has been wrong.... That said I think they're right not to offer him a contract just yet. They were slated after giving McCarthy the contract before the Macedonia game.
Of course I support him, but he was hired to do a job and he hasn't done it yet.
Its good to see BK and the players treat the media with contempt. Why should they come out and give an open press conference when the people in front of them are stabbing them in the back.
As for those members of the FAI who are clearly sending out these 'rumours' to the press - the best support they could give is inside one of the concrete pillars of the new stadium !
While everyone wants Ireland to win against Cyprus at this moment I
must agree with mypost that the game will finish 1-1.
In fairness the media have given Kerr a very easy ride so far.
Mainly because he is a decent football man with a long history
in the Irish game.
If it was M McCarthy or an Englishman managing at the moment
that had made as many errors as Kerr the media would have savaged him
by now.
What errors has he made exactly?
Both Israel results while winning one nil over there
trying to hold on rather than take the game to them.
And while winning 2-0 at home bringing Kavanagh on for Keane
when Keane was injured trying to stitch the game up which backfired.
His general attitude has been dont worry we are doing ok sure havent we the French and
Swiss still to play at home, which is amazingly naieve for a man of his experience.And in general an over cautious/negative approach to every game.
This is what should be remembered. The main man in the FAI never wanted Kerr in the first place and was out voted on the interview panel. What a shock he's spinning against Kerr now, and throwing his choice back in the arena...
More's the pity there's so many muppets willing to lap it up, as obviously need someone with an English accent to be a good Ireland manager.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Whatever the result of these qualifiers, getting rid of Kerr now would be a bad idea. This is his first proper campaign, he's made his mistakes but should a manager be sacked from his job because of a few mistakes? McCarthy made mistakes, Charlton made mistakes, Hand made mistakes, Giles made mistakes, all were given time to grow into the job. McCarthy took over in 1996 and didn't qualify for ANY competition for a further six years. This team is lacking in a few areas, which is not necessarily Kerr's fault.
For the first time in my memory, we have a management that is schooled in Irish football and whereas we once had Maurice Setters or Ian Evans, we now have Noel O'Reilly and Chris Hughton.
This knee-jerk reaction to a few bad results is what sickens me about much football analysis. We win, the manager and the players are legends. We lose and they should be driven out out of the country like the snakes.
It's too early to tell if Kerr is the man to lead this Irish team to serious success. But it's certainly too early to tell that he's not up to it either. I'm in complete support of Kerr and his players.
Like most people here I am deeply suspicious about the unrestrained contrived need to report / speculate on Kerr's future. I wouldn´t agree that Kerr´s days are numbered just yet. I would say that the political ground is being prepared by these lackeys in the event of us not qualifying for the play offs.
I bought Dessie Farrell's book "Tangled up in Blue", all for the price of 14 indosat Dublin airport, (a very good 6 hour read) particularly good for the chapters offering insight into the cynical politics surrounding the shafting of the Dublin managers. If you can only browse, then select page 241, a reprint of a letter to a newspaper from 1908.
That was more to do with the players than him. He was trying to get them to push on and attack more. He said after as much after the game. Anyway Israel have proved a decent side. Witness their results against France and Switzerland.
If he'd brought on an attacker and got the same result he'd be damned for not trying to close the game up.
Is that not the job of the manager. To remain positive. What was he supposed to do/say?
How so? He plays 2 attacking wingers Duff+Reid & 2 strikers. Seems pretty attacking to me. I think the problem with Ireland is that they don't have as good a team as McCarthy had. He had Keane in his prime. We have to play an ageing player on his last legs and a converted winger who can't pass the ball in central midfield. I can't see how a change of Manager is going to solve that.
McCarthy also had the long ball option with Quinn coming off the bench.
Reports that came out after the game suggested that Kerr only got excited about winning the game when they got back to 1-1
In the game in Dublin he should have remained with the formation
he started with it got us to 2-0 up leave it alone if it was working!
To be honest Israel are **** poor and to be trying to stitch a game
up at home when 2-0 up has negativity all over it.
A manger should be trying to get his team to try and win all games
if you draw while trying to win so be it but Kerr has had a pick a point up on
the road win the home games(with a partizan crowd behind us) mentality. Which is great in theory until you get done at home as in the French
match.Then the whole thing falls apart.
Why not name & shame the detractors
Who is pro and who is anti ?
Irish Times : Emmett Malone
Irish Independent : Gerry McDermott
Irish Examiner : Liam Mackey
Sunday Times : Dave Hannigan
Evening Herald : Paul Hyland
Sunday Independent : Dion Fanning
The Star : Paul Lennon
The Turd : Cathal Dervan
Last edited by razor; 05/10/2005 at 11:28 AM.
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What reports? The quotes from the playing and coaching staff suggest that the main objective was to keep possession but they felt they should have created more.
I don't think it was a good idea to put Duff up front and Kilbane on the left but at the end of the day, the formation didn't change. He just didn't want to risk a player who hadn't played a game in couple of months.In the game in Dublin he should have remained with the formation
he started with it got us to 2-0 up leave it alone if it was working!
Anti everything as fr as i can tell.
btw Kerr is on his last legs. Delaney doesn't want him & is in situation where won't have toi actually sack - just not renew contract. The media must be starting these rumours from somewhere...
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