There's no chance Sean Dyche would do it, is there? We need a manager based in England, not Ireland. That's where almost all of our senior players play.
There's no chance Sean Dyche would do it, is there? We need a manager based in England, not Ireland. That's where almost all of our senior players play.
Give it to Roy and Duffer and be done with it. At least the players would go in to the dressing room afraid at half time if they didn't put in a shift.
ABD - anyone but DycheOriginally Posted by Colbert Report
Everton point under Dyche in 24/25 - 17 points in 20 games. David Moyes - 31 points in 18 games... 11 in 7 this season.
Or to look at it another way: in Dyche's last 20 games he got 17 points and in Moyes first 20 games he got 34 points (exactly double)
Or the through their entire tenures, Dyche's Everton were the 16th best team in the league and Moyes' Everton are the 7th best team in the league. By and large the same players...
I genuinely think he's at fault for the regression of Jeff Hendrick and to a lesser extent Robbie Brady when they arrived at Burnley - I remember seeing a thing he did on Hendrick where his entire job was being the first person to get on to the end of flicked on header from a long ball to the big striker and to then lay it out to the winger for him to cross it in - that was literally it. Over and over again. Sam Allerdichi would probably do a better job and he's a dinosaur.
If it had been the back to basics that was hoped for, he'd have known enough to fill our midfield with bodies and make us harder to beat. So, unless it comes very late in the day, the reverting to a more simple, more logical approach to suit the limited players we have isn't going to happen under HH unfortunately (hopeless Jake O'Brien long throw ins aside).
What is the alternative to this that people would prefer next time around? Another delusional idiot who tries to set us up to pass our way through the heavyweights of European football?
In fairness, not being as good as David Moyes should in no way rule anyone out of the hunt here. Beggars can't be choosers and we are still on "Any share change" merchants here.
Heck, a manager who can keep a team in the Premier is straight off at a better level than most of our players, which no idea how to do it
Not that I necessarily want Dyche as manager, but let's not get notions of ourselves either
Nothing against Sean Dyche but I imagine he'd come with a price tag that would be heftier than anything the FAI can afford or should pay. I think that's to be avoided.
Bring Back Belfast Celtic F.C.
That's gorgeous on so many levels. Plenty of the brothers he ain't fond of in Corduff, Huntstown and the like.
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
I would love to see the statistics on the amount of balls Evan Ferguson has won in the air, I'd guess it would be single digit percentages
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
Russell Martin for the fun of it, might end the trying to sing celtic symphony at the Aviva.
Who we want at this stage, well a HH type profile of experience (with limited squads), pragmatic and young enough to manage the modern player and club, can be afforded. I dont have many suggestions, Gary O'Neal? Wouldnt take it probably if he wasnt out of the budget limit. Duff will be linked but is his temperment right or is that exactly what is needed, real no nonsense. inexperienced but a capable coach with bags of potential, yes LoI based again but has lots of top flight playing experience under great managers - they say of course Joey O'Brien was the real man behind Shels success. Head back for Lee Carsley?
Roy Keane will be in the hunt, would pobably take it and right now again could be what is needed, back to basics with an edge. Neil Lennon isnt flying in Scottish 2n tier so if we wanted to crank up the Celtic Symphony.
The older cohort will be rolled out too, even out of retirement like a Mowbray/Pulis kind. Hughton could be actually in the picture though even it wouldnt be as popular now as it might have been in the past. McLeishAt this stage I wouldnt give it all up if McCarthy was in a third time. We'd know what we'd get and were back to someone who might be able to banish the crippling fear this squad is just strangled by.
Unaffordable possibility, Potter - has struggled with big clubs with budgets, but can work with small squads on limited resources, its a strength and his career needs some rehab.
If a JP McManus was paying the wages, Laurant Blanc, Le Guen, Joachin Low, Ian Foster.
Any shouts for Stephen Bradley? Pinapple Stu would retire!
Anyone else think whomever the manager is that Collins shouldnt be captain, its distracting him, trying too hard to lead by example and it weights heavy on him. Was never fond of keepers as captai for some reason but Kelleher looks like he is fazed by nothing. When you see how Coleman performed and tried last night well it show how he was missed and that leader on the pitch. So fist job of a new manager or in a new campaign is a rejig for when Coleman isnt available as the squads real skipper.
Its a fair observation that would be interesting to see the stats to confirm. Partly quality of the balls in (which were often goood) but tactically seemed that other players were the main target, O'Shea going for the flick on when he lacked the height of say O'Brien. Apologies for being a bit LoI and former Dundalk centreic here, but Pat Hoban, nowhere near the height or athleticism of Ferguson, but even floated crosses he managed to often get something on, bullet headers were common meeting crosses and he bullied bigger defenders. Take the relative levels out of it and technique and timing were as important and thankfully that can be coached. Ferguson's conditioning is now top notch so its not a struggle to get on the end of things. He does a lot right in terms of off the ball but a lot is wasted by slow build up play and lateral passes. He hasnt scored at Roma but is rated as he offers more than just goals there, he is getting goals for Ireland, but maybe its adjusting the team that is needed. He is 6ft though not massive for a CF, Niall Quinn, 6'4, O'Brien 6'5 and isnt comanding in the attacking box, Collins is 6'4 and equally I think lacks an attacking threat in the air considering.
Nonsense, where has anyone said that ?
The required alternative is a good manager, of either type, with adaptability to the realities of the opponent on a given day. Watched our northern brothers against Germany the other night, and although they lost it was Germany hanging on for the whistle, fair play to them. And it wasn't done by your chosen methodology at all, they hit it plenty, when they had to and they played when it was on. They did all this with several players of lesser club career stature than ours, and none on a par with our better ones. So, you are talking rubbish again on here.
It seems to me you'll only be happy when we have eschewed the football entirely Eirambler. You sound like Brexit supporters complaining if only it had been a different type of Brexit everything would have been ok.
I note you say you are in Glasgow, a place with a community noted for its dour, austere and joyless outlook on all things, keep an eye that doesn't get even further into your pores lad.
Fair enough.
We've just played two games, one a must win at home to Armenia, both with one recognised striker, who V Armenia at home was frequently behind the ball & sometimes in our half even. As packed as it was appalling.
So what defines packed midfield area here ?
What will suffice ?
All eleven inside our box is it, with strict instructions not to leave the box and dig in like mad ?
Genuinely interested.
Its interesting to see Potter is heavily linked now with Sweden. We are back shopping in the basement again and hoping something turns up. There is one positive for whoever gets the job, there are likely to be at Euro 28 managing since its nearly harder for us not to qualify.
What managers need redemption and 2 years away from the EPL glare to get their groove back so to speak.
We're not getting a Premiership manager. We pay League One money.
You can't spell failure without FAI
HH is on 650k, but is that per annum or for the 17 months? Its decent money either way. L1 average is £200k.
Firstly CTP, relax. I live in a nice bit up in the hills outside the city. We're actually a pretty joyful bunch around here.
Also you seem to have completely misinterpreted my comments about "packing the midfield" with what you have described, which in fact amounts to packing the defence. If we put 11 in our own box, as you seem to facetiously imply that I would want, that would in fact see us resourcing our midfield even less than we already do. So, no, that's obviously not what I want.
So, to explain what I mean, in all of our recent games we have played two central midfielders. It has been the exact opposite of "packing the midfield". It has been a theme of the HH era, and O'Shea before that, and all too often Kenny before that, that we have insufficiently resourced the centre of our midfield. Which is especially baffling considering that it's our weakest part of the team. Instead of bolstering it, we're simply conceding it. And without a functioning midfield, almost anyone is a match for us.
Filling the back line allows us to usually avoid heavy beatings from stronger teams. The exception being the England hammering where we had a player sent off and collapsed. But it's absolutely moronic setting up the same way at home to Armenia. We simply don't have the midfield to play a two, we need another man in there at a minimum. And more often than not we don't need three centre backs. This is a lesson that our current coaching setup seems determined not to learn. Hopefully whoever replaces them will see sense.
Its really not that complicated!!!
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