Yerra UCD created very little also. The 2 penalties were a joke by the way. The pitch was a disgrace as was the attendance. Kerry set up to not loose and hopefully nick one and that's what happened. Fully deserved I might add.Originally Posted by pineapple stu
We had three glorious chances to Kerry's none outside of the penalties.
I don't think it's reasonable to suggest both sides created equal chances
UCD had 1 glorious chance, 1-2 half chances, 2 soft penalties well saved and a ref that only wanted to book Kerry players. Got what they deserved in the end. Kerry full value for a good away win.
Whatever about the merits or otherwise of the result, not sure what expectations pineapple stu had of Kerry when he speaks of a "minnow mentality" - before the season began, the primary goal was not to finish bottom, with 8th a realistic target, and that's precisely where the club is at present. Of course, in an ideal world, the squad would be pushing for the playoffs, but oddly enough, it's the home form holding us back in that regard!
Good game in Dalymount. Ref was a disaster as is tradition for the league but he's not an excuse for that loss. Kamikaze defending from Bohs for both goals and the keeper looked very suspect. Dare I say a keeper needs to be signed in July to help shore up the defence because both Talbot and Chorazka have been at fault for goals this season. I also hope this game puts to bed any notion that Bucko should be starting games for us in midfield. Honestly the most awkward footballer I've ever seen iny life, and that was before his injury. Now he has to take 2 or 3 little steps before he can pass the ball. Honestly it's like watching a toddler try to kick the thing. Bohs best midfield is some combination of McManus, Devoy, Tierney and Morahan. If Morahan is going to keep being played at RB until Smith returns that solves that problem. Still good chances created and on another day we would have gone on to win that one. On to Galway and honestly probably a blessing that the next games Monday so the lads can't hang around too long feeling sorry for themselves.Up the Bohs.
Missing from three yards, hitting the underside of the bar, and forcing a great save in the first half - those aren't half-chances.
I think given it's the fourth season in the league, there has at some stage be a belief that ye can rise beyond eighth. The First Division is not a strong league. But Kerry still seem to approach games with ten men behind the ball, spoiling tactics (hence all the yellows - five tonight, 11 in the two games in the Bowl last season), clinging on for rare wins and no real belief that they can challenge in games more regularly.
For a club that reportedly had €1.5m invested in the pre-season, to consider 8th a "realistic target" neatly encapsulates my view of the minnow mentality tbh.
I think tonights PL results were the 1st this season that had a sense of normality, well where you could could have picked 3 or 4 results in a preseason 'should be the form way', bar Rovers. Nobody has won or lot the league tonight but there is some interesting results, Derry winning by 2 v Shels, Pats getting a good win on the board in a horrible fixture, Rovers dropping points again from winning position. Drogs and Sligo showing an ability to get results in their own ways even if Drogs threw a lead. Bohs and Waterford midtable fare. Points on the boaard aside, Shels are less resilient this season. Derry inconsistent but new manager excuse, Rovers well like Derry last season, there's no excuse.
Dundalk blessed with results elsewhere. Cobh right back in the mix. Glad its not Bray Monday, dull their want to bouce back quickly.
Soft or not, missing 2 penalties and losing.....makes no difference if UCD had 98% possession and 50 sitters or Kerry instead, you would feel cursed. Biased ref? Against Kerry? That makes so much sense?? How about just a sh1te ref!
It's in awful condition and being massively overused again.
Harps were shockingly bad tonight.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
Pats in the first half were as good as I've seen us this season, albeit largely aided by Galway really not trying to play at all. Keena being back was huge.
Second half a different story as Galway came out aggressively, and we just don't look a team that is comfortable with trying to see out a game we're leading in as we can be got at physically, especially by that kind of opposition. Not seen it back properly but what looked like a ridiculously harsh second yellow for Sjoberg didn't help out cause. Looked like he just eased Burns off the ball, who went down holding his face and the ref bought it. Still and all though we managed to grind it out which was nice to see, as is the feeling of being top of the league even if that doesn't seem to mean much this season.
Also I'm not normally one to adorn any Pats player as the best xyz when I don't see enough of other players and teams by comparison, but I'd be shocked if there were a better keeper in the league than Anang. The doubts he's had previously just look ridiculous now, operating at a very high level.
So Keith Long was holding Waterford back yeah ! Brays run finally comes to an end,Dundalk drop points again but does it really matter,didn’t see our game but another defeat and another game our keeper apparently can’t catch a cold !
Irish by birth ,Harps by the grace of god.
For a club that reportedly had €1.5m invested in the pre-season, to consider 8th a "realistic target" neatly encapsulates my view of the minnow mentality tbh.[/QUOTE]
The clubs mantra is to build for the future with plans around academy, women’s football, facilities etc. some of the investment will no doubt go into the men’s first team, but ultimately the approach is around giving local players a higher platform and building the club up over the next few years. The budget, while bigger this year would still not be top half of the table and Kerry also has the geographic disadvantage away from the main base of players in this country i.e. Dublin (Bray, midlands clubs etc can get these players easier and still based at home). Cobh have advantage for Cork based players not good enough for city and treaty obviously pick up limerick based players of first division level. This explains the large number of Uk/ non Irish players with Kerry this year - results from the recruitment policy have been mixed so far.
Also, it’s worth noting no fewer than 5 local lads have started every game this season to date.
How many additional leagues might Caulfield have if he was brave!! To play on a front foot plan B when gone behind, is not playing averages, its throing away opportunities to dictate the state of a leaue table. Over a season those dropped points matter. Long may he continue but its a shame for fans and teams that were and are capable of going away from home fearlessly!
The clubs mantra is to build for the future with plans around academy, women’s football, facilities etc. some of the investment will no doubt go into the men’s first team, but ultimately the approach is around giving local players a higher platform and building the club up over the next few years. The budget, while bigger this year would still not be top half of the table and Kerry also has the geographic disadvantage away from the main base of players in this country i.e. Dublin (Bray, midlands clubs etc can get these players easier and still based at home). Cobh have advantage for Cork based players not good enough for city and treaty obviously pick up limerick based players of first division level. This explains the large number of Uk/ non Irish players with Kerry this year - results from the recruitment policy have been mixed so far.
Also, it’s worth noting no fewer than 5 local lads have started every game this season to date.[/QUOTE]
If you ever become bored with Kerry or they fall by the wayside, you have a ready made home as a Sligo fan!
Not sure it was a lack of bravery in the first half. We were genuinely very good and moved the ball really well. Having said that, Galway missed an absolute sitter to go one up before we scored. Galway did get after us more in the second half, and were on top even before the sending off. Backs to the wall stuff from then until the end, but we coped pretty well. Mind you, I thought we were coping well in Dalymount last week, until we weren’t !
Also have to echo Jacks praise of Anang, and I was just thinking tonight he is probably the best in the league. His handling of crosses all season has been exceptional, and he doesn’t cause as many heart attacks with the ball at his feet these days.
Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.
Well ok, on this occasion maybe circumstances differed but since Caulfield has built multiple sides upper end of the league there have been lots of times startong on the front foot away would have added to points tally improvong league position. Plan B has often been tougher than plan A. At least he isnt signing Jack Byrne and Chris Forrester kinds to be bench warmers these days.
As usual you don't miss an opportunity to have a pop at Kerry..You then usually say you'd like us to do well and you're from Kerry. Just say you can't stand us and cut to the chase.
It's also our 3rd not 4th season.
Unfortunately I didn't see the first 70 minutes and what I did see was a very one sided affair, Bohs played some really good football , created plenty of chances, didn't take them and paid the price. Watched the highlight this morning and they were similar. The league is probably the most open for years so good football isn't always the complete answer and last night prooved that. A team not playing well but but scoring from very few opportunities has as much chance of winning the league as anybody. I do think the league will settle down during this second round of games The Waterford goals, keeper at fault for the first one , defence for the second the ball should have been cleared. Roll on Monday.
Firstly it is Kerry's third season.
They should be kicking on this season. The manager was under pressure coming into this game. The criticism of the manager since the 4-2 loss to Bray shows any extended honeymoon period is over. There is an expectation of better.
The signs last night were that the players were playing for the manager. During an injury in the final quarter, the players were gathered around the manager. Their body language looked focused and respectful of the manager. No indication of anyone really who is disinterested in playing for the manager.
Kerry got out of jail with the two penalty saves. Giving the referee a decision to make is asking for trouble. Kerry conceded a reckless free kick at the edge of the box as well. On another night these incidents would have cost them and their shift put in counting for nothing.
With two tough home games to come, they need to look at back to back wins and build positive momentum.
I think Kerry need an experienced manager. It is up to the current management team to find solutions or an inevitable decision will have to be made. They can enjoy last night's win but there are lessons to be learned as well. Discipline has to improve.
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A Championship: 4 years - 8 first teams - 0 financially ruined. First Division '14: 7 first teams.
Opportunity lost for new clubs/regions to join the LoI family.
Fine, third season.
If that's the only thing you can correct in the post then it can't be far wrong.
Also from other posts - one of the smaller budgets in the league (doesn't everyone claim that?) yet bringing in half a team from abroad?
The highlights show the first penalty is soft at best - ball definitely hit an arm, and question then if whether the arm was in an unnatural position - but the second was a clear barge in the back. So much for two jokes of penalty calls. We'll chalk that down alongside the "biased ref only booking Kerry players" level of analysis.
Ultimately though, there's something wrong about a side with €1.5m in investment thinking 8th in the First is an achievable target. I'm not the only one to have said it here either btw
The burger place in Finn Park is outrageously good.
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