QuoteGibbs was told that he had an incorrect visa ~ Are you saying that America broke its own laws in deporting these people ~ Let them take the American authorities to court !Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
Which law did he break ?
He'd toured the US several times before.
His VISA was the same as his band mate who was allowed entry. Only difference from previous visits was a few episodes of free speech on his socials.
So where's the broken law ?
Gibbs was told that he had an incorrect visa ~ Are you saying that America broke its own laws in deporting these people ~ Let them take the American authorities to court !
I don't see any evidence that the authorities broke any laws in deporting these people ~ I await further developments to show me that the American Authorities broke American laws.
Go to America, abide by American laws and I very much doubt that you will be deported.
But what laws did the guys who were deported here break? I don't think even they know.
That rather undermines your argument, doesn't it? Two people detailed for 25 hours and deported despite having valid visas, and given no explanation.
Last edited by pineapple stu; 28/03/2025 at 1:00 PM.
He was told he had the incorrect VISA but the VISA was organised by band management & was no different to the others, one was let in & was the same as previous times, the VISA.
They also told him there was another issue which they didn't have to disclose. That can only have been one thing. His public stance against some of the presidents actions.
& that was why he was turned back.
At least inform yourself before debating it please
We could even assume that was a bull**** reason made up to justify actions - though we don't have to assume things to see two others detailed and deported for no evident reason.
Sean you wouldn't last 2 months in the US under the current regime ( neither would I btw)
& while you're informing yourself Sean, which I doubt you actually will, this detention also incorporated 25 hours without sleep straight off an 11 hour flight, with a pot noodle & tea. Before being put straight on another 11 hour flight back all while his wife waited for him somewhere in the airport not knowing where he had been taken to.
& all because he said something Trump might not have liked
& that's the trouble with bothering to even engage with you Trump cheerleaders, you'll defend something that could adversely affect your own life & you'll do it without bothering to inform yourselves of what actually happened, or not being capable of doing so.
Diggs I think that's a bit of an over statement in fairness, and I despise the current regime. Some of the stuff that's going on is beyond belief but if I'm 100% honest apart from what's going on with stock market and economy my day to day life hasn't really changed. I'm lucky that where I live is in a bit of a bubble from a lot of the US. Every other day we contemplate moving elsewhere, but that's down to a massive dislike of how others act. There's no doubt that racism is on the rise and just a sheer lack of empathy for other people that seems to ooze out of Americans. My wife calls them the fake Christians, go to church on a Sunday and then go yell at a waitress at lunchtime.
I say all that to say, it's sh1te what's happening here, we are getting on with it like most, but I'm not longer proud about the citizenship I have here
Well for the two other guys, it seems to have been all because their bandmate said something Trump might not have liked.
Which - while not at all trying to justify the treatment of the guy made the comments - seems even worse.
On the contrary - I think sean does come across as the pliant, non-critical sort of person the Republicans want to encourage.
Lads, current affairs is that way ------->
I have never been to America and I have no intention of going either ~ If I did I would follow American laws, and if I didn't then I would accept the consequences, as should any foreigners / tourists in any country.
By yere own posts ye admit that ye don't know why these people were deported ~ So jumping to the Trump thing could be jumping to conclusions !
Many show-biz people have " history ' with drugs or maybe even other law- breaking.
Did the American authorities break any laws in deporting these people ? !
But let's recall where this all started.
You dismissed as "propaganda" the idea that people could be deported from the 2026 World Cup.
Tets has shown many examples of people getting deported for no obvious reason, including this particular case where two members of a band were detailed for 25 hours and then deported for no particular reason, while their bandmate was deported for visa issues despite having the same visas as the other.
You've repeatedly said "If you don't want to follow American laws then maybe America isn't the place for you" but you haven't been able to say what law they actually broke.
So where we're at now is asking you what law these guys broke - and, by extension, what vague reasons could be given to deport others in the future (whether at the World Cup or not). You can't answer that, yet you continue to hold your view of "American laws for America" even though it's been shown to not be valid in this case.
There weren't any laws demonstrably broken.
You can repeat that all you want, about American laws while ignoring that the guys circumstances had not changed since his previous multiple visits, apart from his social media content.
Now, is it that you don't understand that ?
Or that it is something you don't want to acknowledge ?
He'd been there regularly for many many years.
You're willing to speculate on drugs smearing but aren't willing to consider the more obvious political change.
Why ?
I need actual proof before I jumps to conclusion ~ How many people even know of these people or there political leanings ~ They may well have just got looked at this time for no particular reason !
It could be said that the Democrats let a lot of people in to America that should not have been let in to America !
Ha! Have a go at the Democrats rather than answer the question. My bull**** bingo card is filling up nicely anyway.
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