Boring Boring Football

[NeilMcD]

Well originally I was talking about Top teams in Spain and top teams in England on the basis of last nights game and lots of game before that. However I agree we only see Barca and Madrid play another team every week on Sky. However given the fact that these teams are playing a better team you would expect them to be defensive. However I find that they have a refreshing way of playing football so I can only guess that when they play a team of their own level that they are more attacking. In addition, Revista Da Lige does show highlights and there seems to be a fair few goals and good goals at that. I have also been over in Spain for a few games when on Holidays and I found the overall mentality is better in that teams try to win.

If you look at the EPL most teams are geared no to lose. This was said by Andy Gray at the weekend and he found its amazing that team talks nowadays are based on how not to lose the mattch. In his day he said they only chatted about how to beat the other team. This is from a man whois paid very well to sell the EPL on behalf of Sky.

The facts for me are Barcelona are a joy to watch whereas Chelsea are a pain to watch. Its really as simple as that. Their is an onus on the top team in a country to set the standard and dictate how teams throughout the league will play. YOu only have to look at how many teams have copied Chelsea and Man utd are included in this to see the effect the culture at a top club has on the rest of the league. It is the same in GAA as everybody copies the All Ireland Champions. That is why I wouls say that Chelseas brand of football is having an overall negative effect on the EPL as most managers are now copying this hard working, physical, defensive style of football. Mourninhio was like this at Porto and he is the same at Chelsea even though they have loads of money and woudl win with whatever style of playi they wanted.

[wws]

barca arent exactly a form side in la liga as far as I can tell at the minute
villareal have been tasty to watch and got a lot of coverage in the last two years due to europe and what not
betis also get a few airings on sky and are entertaining

zaragoza, ath bilbao bla blah - all have good points and can entertain


sky show barca/madrid in the main - but these teams (unless its the derby) have to play the rest so their is good coverage of all the sides in that sense and 9/10 the la liga action is better IMO than its more touted premiership equivilent
Im simply bored stupid with bolton/fulham/portsmouth et al - teams like them are practiacally unwatchable - and this is from someone who at one time could probably reel of the first team squads of every team in the old first division!


that said Chelsea are the most fascinating club in europe at the minute due to their wealth and endless signings - its fascinating to see how they do and to see if anyone can beat them in the prem or if they can do any better in europe

[KK77]

I decided to sit in and watch the Liverpool Chelsea game last night and it was unbelievably boring. 2 sides playing negative football with 1 striker up front. There wasn't 1 decent chance in the whole game. You'd expect the European Champions against the Premiership Champions to provide some form of entertainment - its a disgrace.
Dunphy was furious after about the standard of football and he was dead right.

I'll be taking me eyes elsewhere next week - I think my mate is painting his bedroom. I might go watch it dry.

Off you go to watch the paint dry so

[anto eile]

didn't bother watching it as it was obvious how it was going to go by the way they play the rest of the time never mind in a situation where a point will do. Anyway, a borefest is Liverpool's traditional european tatic going back decades....

thats a fact.their players (hansen etc) from the glory days 70/80shave admitted it too

[jockser]

didn't bother watching it as it was obvious how it was going to go by the way they play the rest of the time never mind in a situation where a point will do. Anyway, a borefest is Liverpool's traditional european tatic going back decades....

Yeah the CL final this year was the most boring final in in history........zzzzzz oh and the 5-4 against Alaves......total snooze fest!!!!

[Clifford]

thats a fact.their players (hansen etc) from the glory days 70/80shave admitted it too

Yeah, a real borefest was that final in Istanbul a few short months ago, what was it again? 3-3 and pens? Zzzzzzzzz.

[jockser]

Yeah, a real borefest was that final in Istanbul a few short months ago, what was it again? 3-3 and pens? Zzzzzzzzz.

beat ya to it
its all these envious manusa fans have to hold on to in these dark times so go easy on them

[finlma]

Yeah, a real borefest was that final in Istanbul a few short months ago, what was it again? 3-3 and pens? Zzzzzzzzz.

One swallow doesn't make a summer. For every exciting LongballPool game there are at least 10 boring ones.

I'm not a Manu fan either - don't think much of they're play this season for that matter either. This 4-5-1 formation is sucking the life out of the game.

[NeilMcD]

One swallow doesn't make a summer. For every exciting LongballPool game there are at least 10 boring ones.

I'm not a Manu fan either - don't think much of they're play this season for that matter either. This 4-5-1 formation is sucking the life out of the game.

I agree there is too much of who a person supports clouding their judgement. Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea have all been boring this season when they should be better with the players they have esp Chelsea. Arsenal have tried to play good football but the one complaing is they dont mix it up enough. The rest of the league is pretty average and Spurs should be more entertaining witht the players they have. Liverpool were very boring under Houllier and most Liverpool fands would admit that. They were involved in probably 2 of the greatest finals in living memory but there general pattern of play week in week out has not been that exciting for the followers. Often I think Liverpool fans adopt the same attitude to their team as I do to my brother
I can bad mouth him but I dont want anybody else doing it.

Football phone in shows seem to be dominated by some guy from Kerry or wherever it may be. saying "we" are not good enough and giving out about the style of play.

[Clifford]

One swallow doesn't make a summer. For every exciting LongballPool game there are at least 10 boring ones.

I'm not a Manu fan either - don't think much of they're play this season for that matter either. This 4-5-1 formation is sucking the life out of the game.

I never said you were, I find luckypool as bad, but just highlighting that every team will have boring games and "exciting" games in equal measure.

One mans 4-3 is another mans 0-0, I thoroughly enjoyed last night as I did the Juve v Milan final in old trafford, as I did the final in May. Each game is a new open book for me.

[jockser]

well liverpool were boring towards the end of Houlliers reign. i dont think they are boring now though. and any long ball accusations as just from people who "jump and the bandwagon" without actually watching the games. Its too easy to say liverpool play long ball just coz they now have a 6'7" striker.....who buy the way was excellent on the floor last night. Liverpool we "exciting" during the roy evans era and one 1 league cup. Now they are "boring" in some peoples opinions but won more tophies than anyone else in the last 5 years so i know which i prefer as a supporter of that team.For every boring game played by any football team you can name an exciting game......i dont buy into this "Football is boring" thing just cause its flavour of the month. that is a load of schite in my opinion. if you find it boring head down to your mans mates bedroom and watch the paint dry.

[Sheridan]

5-4 against Alaves......total snooze fest!!!!

I'm not just trying to be contrary here, but that was indisputably one of the worst games of football I have ever witnessed. Farcical from start to finish.

[jockser]

I'm not just trying to be contrary here

i think you are!!......was it boring though?that was my point.

[CollegeTillIDie]

Worst game I ever saw on TV was a game on RTE in 1987 from Kenilworth Road in the Old First Division ( now The Premiership) between Luton Town and Sheffield Wednesday. It was 0-0 but a very poor one. Chelsea Liverpool was outrageously entertaining compared to it.

The worst game I was ever at finished 5-3. Goals do not necessarily equal quality football or entertainment. In the above game two defences not worthy of the name were on show in a relegation battle here in Ireland in 1985. I will spare the blushes of both clubs by refraining from mentioning the venue or the teams.

[Karlos]

Yesterday I sat down to watch the league leaders in England Vs the european champions followed by watching the Italian Champions Vs european giants Inter Milan.

Now I personally don't judge quality of leagues based on one game but given that this 'boring' discussion has been ongoing I thought i'd sit down and analyse these two games.

Yesterday's liverpool game was certianly exciting in all sences of the word. Two teams very committed to the game, good technical and tactical skills on display (e.g. Crouch's control and turn was sublime.....likewise with Drogba), plently of good defending at times and loads of goal mouth action on display.

I tuned into the Juve - Inter game where none of the above was evident. Some of the best players in the world where on the pitch and frankly they were awful. Dreadful technical skill on display incorporating 90 minutes of ridicuolous cynical play & cheating. Hardly a decent effort on goal besides the two goals which incidently where scored from set plays. All in all, it was pants. Two of the best teams in europe in one of the best leagues in the world and they served up a borefest of the highest order.

Based on these two games alone - how any one could believe that this football was more technically or tactically superior than the Liverpool - Chelsea game yesterday is beyond me........

Unfortunelty I didn't manage to catch any of the Spanish Football this weekend.

[pete]

Most football is boring unless you have a reason for watching - you support 1 team or have money on.

[OwlsFan]

Worst game I ever saw on TV was a game on RTE in 1987 from Kenilworth Road in the Old First Division ( now The Premiership) between Luton Town and Sheffield Wednesday. It was 0-0 but a very poor one.

I thought it was a great game Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that.