Would Doyle be interviewed by Newstalk if he was still in the EL?

[Cosmo]

However I still think that Doyle deserves his call up and he's good enough to make it at reading - playing there on a week to week basis for a couple of seasons will make him a better player. (would also like to think he'd have got his call up if still playing with cork as playing 4 or 5 matches for reading doesnt change ye that much as a player!!)

Here ye go so

[ColinR]

Who's pushing that argument?
Neither Colm or I have said that.

look back to jerry the saint's post

[mypost]

thats the main point - forget about the media - Championship in england is of a higher standard than the EL and will only make doyle a better player over the next couple of years

The Championship in England is rubbish, and always has been, the type of football play is similiar to NL 1st Division football. Not a single team in England's Championship play decent football, it's all punts, knock-downs, and kicking lumps out of each other. Nobody has discovered the art of keeping the ball on the ground, and playing your way out of trouble. How many other countries, select international players to play for them who play in the second tier of their league??

The thread boils down to two questions;

Is Kevin Doyle playing a higher standard of football at Reading, than at Cork? Answer: No

Has Kevin Doyle gone from unwanted NL riff-raff, to international squad member in the space of two months?? Answer: No again.

The only difference is according to the misguided Irish team boss, he is only eligible for selection because he plays his club football now, in not the right country, but one country, and ironically enough, it's not Ireland.

[redgav]

well cheers everyone for dragging the post way off thread

The question was - If Doyle was still playing in the EL would newstalk bother talking to him????

[mypost]

well cheers everyone for dragging the post way off thread

The question was - If Doyle was still playing in the EL would newstalk bother talking to him????

The answer to that is also no, but you knew that bringing up the thread would link it to the other questions. There can be no debate on this thread without them.

[pete]

The question was - If Doyle was still playing in the EL would newstalk bother talking to him????

Maybe they'd interview him for his opinions on Wexfords hurling team like Roddy & boxing...?

[monkey magic]

Who's pushing that argument?
Neither Colm or I have said that.

fair enough you didnt say that, apologies if it sounded that way, but it was said in a few other posts, maby its them i should have been quoting..

[Number 4]

The Championship in England is rubbish, and always has been, the type of football play is similiar to NL 1st Division football. Not a single team in England's Championship play decent football, it's all punts, knock-downs, and kicking lumps out of each other. Nobody has discovered the art of keeping the ball on the ground, and playing your way out of trouble. How many other countries, select international players to play for them who play in the second tier of their league??

The thread boils down to two questions;

Is Kevin Doyle playing a higher standard of football at Reading, than at Cork? Answer: No

Has Kevin Doyle gone from unwanted NL riff-raff, to international squad member in the space of two months?? Answer: No again.

The only difference is according to the misguided Irish team boss, he is only eligible for selection because he plays his club football now, in not the right country, but one country, and ironically enough, it's not Ireland.

What a load of crap. The Championship in England is not 'rubbish'. All the teams DO NOT 'punt' all the time and its light years ahead of NL 1st Division fare.

To answer your question truthfully: Is Doyle playing at a higher standard now. Definately YES.

As a whole, the 1st Division in England (or whatever its called - Coke whatever) is miles ahead of the Premier here. Week on week who would hold ther own in it. Cork ? Maybe ! Mid to lower table at best. Derry? Only on this season alone and then only possibly. Shels? If they got their **** together then maybe. After that absolutely nobody. Thats 3 teams that may survive anywhere in the whole division !!! And I'm probably being generous.
Thats what is meant by playing at a higher standard.

If the question is : Has he suddenly improved in the last couple of months by miles to make him international class now and not when he was with Cork? Then the answer obviously is NO.
But circumstances have changed and he HAS gone from an eL player to an international squad member (to answer your second question).