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Four shots on target, four goals...
Five shots on target, five goals...
I come home from a day watching hurling..it's 0-0
Now its 4-0
But in general, we knew we were on a hiding to nothing.. we also know, we're not comparing ourselves to England for now
The first half was decent..
Overall I'm very happy. First half perfect template for hoe to play against top seeds.
Scales was awful for the penalty really poor effort from him
Really don't think we get beat if Scales doesn't make that mistKe
SS really poor all fame awful defending repeatedly and giving the ball away terribly. Can't be having him in that wide left position if that's his level
Nice to see moran on
I wonder who the man of the match is?
Collins maybe? Or O'Shea? Possibly Festy?
So many candidates
Very very good, organised, disciplined first half. Granted, England were nowhere near top gear but that's their problem.
Thought Festy was decent in the first half with how he relieved the pressure in defence with some good runs, and also made som decent defensive contributions. Szmodics a bit dodgy at times with how he gave the ball away trying to be too smart and make cunning turns.
It always felt like, once England did move through the gears, they'd get their goal and then we'd have no way back into it, but in the end, they didn't even need to get into top gear, thanks to the penalty. Any defender will give up penalties and get yellow cards like that at some point, which makes Scales' yellow in the first half even more silly.
Hard enough to stop an England team with 11. Impossible for us with 10.
Quick question. Was VAR in use? Could’ve done with it for Ferguson penalty shout
baffled that people are coming away from this "happy"
Im sick after that, but Im not angry. Ive been angry plenty after Ireland matches, but Im sick because the 1st half didnt deserve the 2nd half.
We were set up extremely well. I love that we had adjusted from the Dublin game and didnt just leave ourselves open to be walked through. We were disciplined and the plan was going perfectly. In my opinion they were 2 stonewall penalties and for VAR not to even look was disgusting, but the manager did his job well in getting us prepared for this game.
The 1st 15 minutes of the 2nd half were the disaster you fear against good teams. Stupid penalty, but having Scales sent off on top of it was just a killer. The 2nd goal was a lucky bounce off Cullen right to Gordon and then the 3 was a centimeter from offside. 5 mins between the 1st and the 3rd goal and it was game over. All individual errors that you just cant get away with against top teams
If we look back over this NL I still think we have improved under Hallgrimson
Its really not that complicated!!!
Once it was 2-0 it might as well have been 10-0 and there's not much learning to be had after that. As sad as it sounds it's good that we lost this way as the players have a lot to feel aggrieved about and hopefully the dramatically improving togetherness isn't impacted by this.
Upon reflection, it's more of a shame that HH wasn't there for the June friendlies as we might have given a real game against Greece.
All in all, future is looking brighter than the Kenny days
Last edited by rebelmusic; 17/11/2024 at 6:36 PM. Reason: Typos
Tough second half. I think we really have to consider Scales' position in the pecking order after that, you just can't leave the leg trailing in the box like that, especially on a yellow. Silly earlier yellow to start with as well. When there's a lad who was a standout in Ligue 1 last season on the bench in his position - it's great that he has developed from UCD to where he is at Celtic, but that just wasn't good enough.
The setup more or less worked at 11 v 11 to be fair. So credit to Hallgrimsson for that. Very unlucky to even be playing a team like England in this competition to begin with, that's not what it's meant to be about - it's supposed to be about playing teams at your own level. Hopefully we get a playoff draw that balances out the awful group draw we were given.
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