QuoteI wouldn't trust Temple as far as I could throw him. Seems like a hot head too. I see it all ending in tears although I hope I'm wrong.
Brendan Ogle isn’t on the board of the trust.Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
I wouldn't trust Temple as far as I could throw him. Seems like a hot head too. I see it all ending in tears although I hope I'm wrong.
100% agree. Nobody can say the warning signs weren't there from day one.
The man saved the club from going under at the last minute, managed to keep it going until the end of the season and has now managed to keep us out of scarp (admin) and has plans in place for the club going forward
I can't see how people would have an issue with him
IDK, maybe if he was duking his BTL mortgages and bating men in the stand there would be an issue but otherwise not.
Do you know the details o =f the mortgage issue? Bating men in the stand, its not hrd to bait the people in question. Some straight talking, calling things as they are from his perspective is a pleasant change from the BS and spoofing of a past COO. It may hit the rocks but as far as getting back to basics and smoking out the hornets nest is a positive start. Ogle is a divisive figure and if he had the new trust and club truly at heart he would realise this and take a step back. He is unlikely to do so because publicity and public sparring with somebody, anybody, is what sustains him and nourishes his ego. Others in the trust should speak up. He also was in the 1903 and took it over before health meant he had to take a break but he railroaded his way in to position in 1903 and founding members were puhed aside. There were mad letter written with solo runs then too so its hard not to disagree with JT on the things being said and he was straight up about where his issue lies. For as log as the trust is not involved they are growing the warchest also.
I would.(Trust Temple)Did you watch the presser? Have you seen the debt that stat sports and fastfix ran up & left ainscough facing (albeit he was naive himself)
Temple took the club on when it was in total rag order and nobody else wanted it ,himself and the most honest guy I know, Peter halpin have fought through thick and thin to try and sort deals with creditors. Thankless work done. Temple nor halpin are rich people. And one thing certain, they won't become rich having control of Dundalk.
#1Personal issue between the man and mortgage company
#2 nobody was "bated"
At times, especially after a few drinks somebody needs to ring you a taxi Even though you don't agree the taxi need to be rang!
It's sad all the same the way that story played out ?
I imagine Brendan Ogle is the same one whos a trade unionist lads?
Gary Cronin is he the right man to manage Longford Town?
Yes that's him.
TBH don't really know much about him, but saw a clip of an interview after Dundalk were awarded a license and he seemed to be implying Dundalk were being persecuted by just having to follow the licensing rules every other club has to abide by. Something about having to show they had the funds not just saying they did
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You could certainly look it that way if you like. What he was saying imo is that the accounts submitted were scrutinised in detail, that 'budgeting' wasnt suffcient but proof that the figures budgeted for were concrete. The context is important where he started off saying that previous budgets submitted by Dundalk under Statsports/AC under which licences were secured were, to put it nicely, bull sh1t. That the finances provided to BA to obtain a licence were cooked. He alluded to the FAI beaing embaressed and angry about this and so these accounts were under much heavier scrutiny than would be the norm - say for example projected gate income being pushed to the limits but instead must be conservative. Persecution was not what was being suggested but that there were a serious amount of hoops that had to be jumped through in a short period of time.
Quite frankly Im surprised by the insinuations that are negative on JT here. Accepting that we dont know what the future holds over the longer term, what he has achieved is nothing short of miraculous, all the moreso that this has been done by someone who doesnt have deep pockets. There is an undertone by some in this thread that sounds close to begrudging that Dundalk have survived, avoided SCARP and obtained a licence for 2025. People complaining about extensions of licencing deadline, comments on personal issues of JT, suggestions of him baiting people in Oriel, suggestion that he thinks Dundalk were being persecuted. Sorry to disappoint folks!
*not sure is its particularly relevant or fair to add but JT's father died last week after a period of illness, and I think it adds to what he has personally managed to get done for the club.
Last edited by Nesta99; 06/12/2024 at 7:14 PM.
Any time I hear John Temple speak it's like Father Ted winning the golden cleric "and now we move on to the liars!". Great entertainment, congrats on the licence
If Dundalk's licence has been facilitated by a bit of fudge, I'm not too bothered. Yes there should be consistency but elite licencing costs money.
The likes of Klub Kildare and CK United who are proving dependability through the academy leagues need to be looked after as well.
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A Championship: 4 years - 8 first teams - 0 financially ruined. First Division '14: 7 first teams.
Opportunity lost for new clubs/regions to join the LoI family.
Except it isnt a gag when it comes to Dundlk FC in recent years.
I'm of the opinion there's a time and place for everything. A press conference that should be celebrating the hard work done by himself and many others to get Dundalk to this point should be moment to try to bring everyone together, celebrate that hard work and bring some optimism for the upcoming season. Have other meetings, press conferences/releases to address other things. I understand there's a lot happened behind the scenes but Temples just made it so the eyes aren't on the good work done but another person who, from what it appears isn't involved in running the supporters trust only a member of it? Why shoot yourself in the foot when there's still a long race to run?
I cant disgree on timing. A skilled politician would have said a multitude by saying little. In terms of what people are getting from what was said, ie Dundalk fans, it is that a licenece is secured and Dundalk FC will continue in to 2025, the rest is ultimately noise.
I did think its was ....ummm.... quite sweet of Gerry Malone to suggest someone to appoint to the academy during his slot for questions, offering advice during the press conference, and that slightly unusual moment was dealt with in a nice manner, no rolling of eyes or looks of wtf - understanding the eccentric nature of Gerry and that it came from a genuine love for the club was how it was managed. There has been a lot more of this type of stuff in dealing with fans during a difficult time than what people are nitpicking on. JT wasnt a household name in Dundalk and now cant walk a few metres without someone wanting to offload and that cant be easy. One thing we are not short of in Dundalk are opinions!!
Do I think he is THE white knight, well tbh what I knew of him prior I wasnt optimistic, there were rumours abound on who he was fronting for and if there were truth to most Id have walked away from supporting the club. But so far so good, he has done what the vast majority felt was hopeless, he has broken the back of a cabal of self important self professed football administration genii. He has made difficult decisions, making people redundant without alienating those same people who still have plenty to offer and may in the future be able to get back on board for a wage. Do i think that the future of the club is fully secure, its LoI and any LoI fan of any club shoud know that there is always risk. If we have a good season and are promoted the pitch and floodlights may not meet licencing for Premier Division standards so will need to be replaced, will we have the means to do so in 12 months? It could be another crisis and if not promoted we may not get another year out of the pitch anyway. So we have bought some time really and an opportunity to build from the bottom up a club that can avoid the reoccurance of recent events and 'performances' of some club admin.
For what it is worth, in relation to the new Trust, Brendan has been saying things that have been back tracked on and has been caught out on making claims that couldnt be backed up. Thats not saying it was an official stance or that the overall intent was malevolent. He is a combatative character, he thrives in conflict and there are times when that is important. It is unfortunate if conflict is created because that is when strengths come to the fore. Brendan is well known, has a thick skin and will always be divisive, a born politician if he had taken that route. But his reputation and profile does get attention, what he says is heard and will get a response. I feel that right now he should be held in reserve!
Last edited by Nesta99; 08/12/2024 at 11:14 AM.
That's actually very good, he always reminds me of a guy you would meet in a residents bar of a hotel, most have been to one, especially if you have young families, Dad pops down for a few late ones and talks absolute ****e to whoever is there and doing the same.
That said, he has delivered the holy trinity of FD Licence, Tax Clearance and Scarp** avoidance, fxxx knows how to be fair, but he has, so I take my hat off to him, that said he's still quite entertaining.
**Not to be confused with a mini scrap at the last home game of the season when handbags** happened as the ex regime were in sight in the main stand at FT, you got to just love the LOI at times.
** Actually more Fr Ted. Mrs Doyle tea room, I'll pay for this........................
Last edited by oriel; 08/12/2024 at 10:12 PM.
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