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    Wait. They play in red and white. **** them and their stupid pitch.
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    Your not being at all realistic, and that includes Prem Div Clubs.
    The budgeting issue for football is that cost can be budgeted for the season, probably with 90% accuracy for the domestic part of a season. So a club could say it will cost us 1m to run, with 650k for the first team, or 2m, with 1.5m for the first team and be pretty sure that would be where the costs would end up.
    Income on the other hand is dependent on so many variables. Pre covid no club could confidently budget gate receipts includ season tickets of over 500k in a season. 2025, maybe 5 could get 1m in season tickets/gates, but I’d only be confident in 1 of those, and then the other 5, not all will earn 500k from gates and season tickets, even assuming gates stay on around 2024 levels for those clubs.
    Whether your spending 300k or 3m a year, no guarantee that you will generate enough to meet those costs

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    I see that Drogheda’s (and Walsall's) owners the Trivela group have bought Danish top division club Silkeborg. Saw a few mentions on Twitter that it could cause a bit of bother regarding European places as both clubs are due to play in Europe next season having won their domestic cups but there are uefa rules on multi club ownership within their competitions. There are obviously ways around it seen as RB Leipzig/Red Bull Salzburg as well as Man City/Girona playing in the champions league at the same time in recent years. Anyone know more on that rule?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    I see that Drogheda’s (and Walsall's) owners the Trivela group have bought Danish top division club Silkeborg. Saw a few mentions on Twitter that it could cause a bit of bother regarding European places as both clubs are due to play in Europe next season having won their domestic cups but there are uefa rules on multi club ownership within their competitions. There are obviously ways around it seen as RB Leipzig/Red Bull Salzburg as well as Man City/Girona playing in the champions league at the same time in recent years. Anyone know more on that rule?
    https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/...eos-ratcliffe/

    I guess something like that will happen,UEFA will always find a way for the rich people to bend the rules!
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    Rovers fans held a protest outside their match tonight over their ownership. Some details in the second photo, they seem to be worried that Desmond and Wilson will take over the fans stake in the club

    https://x.com/seanocsport/status/185...379444804?s=46
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    Just a bit of info for all those new Bonnyrigg Rose fans, their home game with Stirling Albion today was postponed due to a frozen pitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy View Post
    Just a bit of info for all those new Bonnyrigg Rose fans, their home game with Stirling Albion today was postponed due to a frozen pitch
    Boneyrigg Froze

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    Rovers fans held a protest outside their match tonight over their ownership. Some details in the second photo, they seem to be worried that Desmond and Wilson will take over the fans stake in the club

    https://x.com/seanocsport/status/185...379444804?s=46
    Oh dear... will Rovers North funding be cut if the Members are forced out?

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    Did I read somewhere that the Mayo League maybe considering applying for a First Division Licence for the 2025 season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    Did I read somewhere that the Mayo League maybe considering applying for a First Division Licence for the 2025 season!
    Just 1 more and we can all happily look forward to a 12 team Premier Division and Dundalk promoted without ball being kicked in 2025.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy View Post
    Just a bit of info for all those new Bonnyrigg Rose fans, their home game with Stirling Albion today was postponed due to a frozen pitch
    Good enough for them. Hoorbags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    Did I read somewhere that the Mayo League maybe considering applying for a First Division Licence for the 2025 season!
    Non LoI academy teams:
    U14: Klub Kildare, Mayo and CK United.
    U15: Klub Kildare, Mayo, Limerick and CK United.
    U17: Klub Kildare, Limerick and CK United.
    U20: Klub Kildare and CK United.

    Mayo get mentioned a lot though they aren't fielding teams at U17 and U20.

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    Drogheda have their season tickets at 300 euro. That must be most expensive in the league?

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    https://www.derrynow.com/news/derry-...%20pay%20€240.

    Derry are the most expensive at 340 euro
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    Jaysis that's expensive...
    Would there be much take up by the derry faithful of those ST's?
    Is the owner looking to recoup the money spent on the shiny new stands
    Rovers ST's are €235 for renewal and €260 for new- 3,300 sold so far I'm told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by placid casual View Post
    Jaysis that's expensive...
    Would there be much take up by the derry faithful of those ST's?
    Is the owner looking to recoup the money spent on the shiny new stands
    Rovers ST's are €235 for renewal and €260 for new- 3,300 sold so far I'm told.
    As a club we don't get the tax breaks that the other clubs in Ireland get. You can understand from a business point of view why the prices are higher.

    From a fans point of view you will always have those who find it tough to pay that kind of money. Same for all the clubs. £285 to watch 18 games a season as a hobby every second Friday is reasonable enough in my mind. The Derry faithful will kick up a fuss for a while as we tend to do but will eventually do as they do and take up their seat, I personally think with the new stand there will be more season tickets than previous years.

    Season tickets last year where £280 quid so have gone up by £5. Not a massive jump so I wouldn't say that Phil O'doherty is looking to recoup anything. He already shells out 1million plus a year to keep the club afloat without looking to recoup it.

    The other side of the coin is that the club merchandise is also probably the cheapest about. The price of a Jersey is £50.00 compared to some of the prices of the other LOI teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfc_legend9 View Post
    As a club we don't get the tax breaks that the other clubs in Ireland get. You can understand from a business point of view why the prices are higher.
    I'd counter that with the fact that the most expensive IL ST is £195.
    I don't mind paying the £285. It's less than £6 a week, which is what I put away weekly to pay for it.
    However, for a town that is certainly not the richest in the country, it can see why people find it a bit expensive.

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    Is £5 increase worth the negative sentiment? £15k if 3k STs are sold doent seem worth it when someone is already filling a £1m hole and there is still the whole cost of living crisis thinking happening. There is an argument for smaller annual inreases rather than a larger jump but for me I think its easier to pick the timing and justify a bigger jump where the money in becomes less 'why bother', cite that there havent been increases over x number of years, offer ways to pay, add to concessions even, point to the cost of ground developments and hopefully increased demand, throw in the old building a team that wins costs etc. When the season has been an expensive damp squib adding a few quid to tickets is fart in a lift stuff, when opting to not add to prices has people saying fair play!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Is £5 increase worth the negative sentiment? £15k if 3k STs are sold doent seem worth it when someone is already filling a £1m hole and there is still the whole cost of living crisis thinking happening. There is an argument for smaller annual inreases rather than a larger jump but for me I think its easier to pick the timing and justify a bigger jump where the money in becomes less 'why bother', cite that there havent been increases over x number of years, offer ways to pay, add to concessions even, point to the cost of ground developments and hopefully increased demand, throw in the old building a team that wins costs etc. When the season has been an expensive damp squib adding a few quid to tickets is fart in a lift stuff, when opting to not add to prices has people saying fair play!?
    I do get what you mean, but do think smaller increases are easier for people.
    An increase of a fiver basically matches the rate of inflation. If you hold off for a few years and hit people with a £30 increase, it'll may annoy people more?
    There is a new monthly payment option the club have introduced this year, which is a great idea.

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