QuoteYa you can drink in the smoking area, plastic pints though.
Is it allowed to bring your pints out to the smoking area during the game though?Originally Posted by Buckett
Not that it matters to me, as I'd regularly take 4 cans and have them in the Shed but pints are better than cans
Ya you can drink in the smoking area, plastic pints though.
Is that you or your mates flag then, that is on display sometimes? 'Football is nothing without CANS' and a photo of a few Harp cans next to DFC crest?
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Which is against the clubs ground regulations, not that it matters to you!
Just allow drinking in the stands, and let clubs have the Revenue
Baffling that's it's not allowed by the league (or is it the individual clubs?). The FAI allowed them in stands at Lansdowne during COVID, and have since gone back to banning them.
If people want a drink at a match, they're going to get it. Makes more sense for the clubs to make a few quid from it.
Always think back at a recent stag do, we went to a Borrusia Mönchengladbach match. The 12 of us had four pints each. An extra €240 in revenue for the club. We do we do our own clubs out of the money?
Last edited by brendy_éire; 09/11/2024 at 9:17 PM.
No that's not us but I know the lads who your talking about
What difference does it make if someone has a few cans while watching the game.
The club even have a big bin in the middle of the shed for empty cans this years as they got fed up of them getting left lying around everywhere
Thank God it's not allowed at Ireland matches. Mate of mine was at the rugby the other day, he was drove spare by the amount of people coming in and out constantly for drinks and the toilets. If you can't go 45 mins without a drink then do you really love the sport?
Whats the difference? Might be that on many occasions cans get thrown on the pitch thown at players oo linesman resulting in fines. Did you ever question why they are not allowed? Its the same way regulations on pyro is ignored and costs the club and the culprits would shout no pyro no party bs and as whats the difference. But sure continue to ignore club rules, in a self entitleed, couldnt give a fook way. You mentioned taking your son to Drogheda last night of the season, do you take your son to Oriel and drink cans?
Can't stand that at Aviva for Rugby games, not that I go, just looking at the state of them with their plastic pints in the seats, and as you say the constant flow in and out, drinks / jacks.
Now I won't be a spoils sport, its of course a choice and I had a delayed return to my seat for the second half in one of the cup finals 2015-19, (met a mate who flew home for the final - got chatting at HT) but that is all behind the glass and you are not impeding anyone. For the Rugby crowd, a lot of them just seems to be about the non stop drinking during the game. Its not a good look.
#DundalkFC - First Irish club to win an away game in Europe (1963), only Irish club to win a game / points in Europa League Group Stage (2016).
In fairness you can make the same argument about bottles of water or cola? You wouldn't argue for banning them. I'm sure a scalding cup of tea or coffee would do infinitely more damage if thrown at a player yet they aren't banned? The FAI ban it but it's not because it could be thrown on the pitch, it's likely just following the rules the UK set up I the 80's likely to help deal with their hooligan problem.
I've never thrown a can onto the pitch. If someone wants to throw something on the pitch you can buy cans and bottles of soft drinks all round the stadium
No my son is only 8 too young for cans yet
He goes to the home games with his mammy if you want to know that bad. Wouldn't take him into the Shed especially with all the cannabis smoke
By the way have you ever cursed while at a game in Oriel? That's against the rules
Last edited by dundalkfc10; 10/11/2024 at 7:30 PM.
On the plus side I've heard last few days that Dundalk have secured new investors to be announced in the next few days
Gerry Malone (the well trusted ?) journalist is now reporting it aswell
Yes but water or cola doesnt alter the behaviour of the consumers. Yes they can also be thrown and are but there is an obvious difference. It is unlikely that a half dozen bottles of coke are drunk prior to the game and then topped up at the game resulting in inapropriate behaviour. You see the comments above about the look of pints allowed at rugby matches, agree or disagree, you should see the pie eyed state of a large group skulling cans in the shed in Oriel. If it is against ground regulations and 'fans' just couldnt be bothered to follow and it costs - cherry pick regulations to ignoore or for a club not to enforce then where do you stop. If a club decides to allow beers to be coonsumed in the ground then so be it if its is controlled eg in plastic containers, where people can be refued if excessively druk and the club benefits financially. Same with organised or cold pyro. Ultimately it is about not caring what the club requests of fans in terms of rules, that they dont care - have these kind ever paid a fine they are responsible for, Dundalkfc10?
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Only thing, Gerry has got a lot of things wrong over the years, even to the point of trying to call people out online, then having to back down a day later.
He tweeted Ryan O'Kane in advanced talks to join Shels last week, (it could happen), but then Ryan's dad replied something like 'Really, he tells me nothing'.
So as always pinch of salt with his posts.
#DundalkFC - First Irish club to win an away game in Europe (1963), only Irish club to win a game / points in Europa League Group Stage (2016).
If the club are worried about fans drinking, they wouldn't be opening the Lillywhite hours before games and selling pints cheaper than anywhere in town (€4) and again at half time
I don't know who has ever paid a fine or not. I've been following Dundalk for 34 years (since I was 4 years old when my grandad first took me) and I've never cost the club a penny.
If scumbags are going to throw stuff on the pitch, they are going to do it whether they have 10 cans before a game and a few more at the game or if they have none.
The club have "banned" fans before and 1 or 2 games later the same lads are back in Oriel so the club obvs don't care what these "fans" get upto
I know the Drogheda lads started the row on the pitch this year but it was the same lads on the pitch fighting them, who were fighting on the pitch against Derry after we won the league cup a few years ago
The club knows who these people are, everyone that goes to the games knows who they are
To be having a go at someone for having a few cans harming nobody but my own liver is a bit rich considering what goes on at times in oriel
I'd wager that the pie eyed individuals are also having some coke, just not the kind sold in bottles. FWIW I'm not arguing for or against drinking in the stands, personally I think it would have a negative effect similar to what is described above at rugby matches, but your argument that a can can be thrown on the pitch and cost a club money is flawed because
1. People drink before, during and after matches in bars some of which are attached to the grounds and bring profit into the club so that's not going to stop
2. You're assuming that alcohol is the only substance that these people are taking on board that could lead to this issue when history and anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise
3. Even if you stopped all of that drinking, drug abuse etc banned all containers from the stand people still regularly have change, disposable vapes and lighters that can be thrown onto a pitch and do damage to players & officials. As we've seen from protests that go overboard as well there doesn't need to be a heap of people drinking and actively taking drugs just people getting aggro with each other and being passionate about something they support and unfortunately that is engrained in football culture.
The only way to deal with it is a zero tolerance banning policy and if it's a very serious event eg attacking a player or official then something has to be done at a legislation level to introduce football banning orders like they have in the UK.
Things like banning alcohol from the stand are performative measures that make people feel better but don't solve the actual problem which is a few rotten apples spoiling the whole bunch.
If you have to smuggle cans it to a ground then it shouldnt be attempted. I dont think it is harmless, Dundalkfc10 may be able to behave himself but other dont meaning others ruin things for everyone, a shame but it it what it is. There is a duty on oldr supporters not to two finger the rules and set examples for younger fans. Drug us is a related but different issue and much harder to prevent but sure same difference, there will be some who will say wheres the harm except to themselves etc. If alcohol consumption is harmless why are KO times changed to earlier slots?
2 wrongs dont make a right and all that, if the club is not applying the rules then yes I can understand why fans wouldnt take them seriously but if the club were, and fans were banned permanently would supporters step up and help protect the club from fines. Just because it is hard to prevent problems doesnt mean we shouldnt bother. The reason for my double standard on the club allowing alcohol sold by the club would be acceptable is simply is that the club recieving that revenue can offset the cost of fines and security, there is also an ability to say no if need be.
Im not suggesting this is what happens with Dundalkfc10 but seeing guardians with kids and guardians well on the booze is just wrong, but a much bigger debate there. I happen to really dislike the way mobs of kids run around Oriel on matchnights as if it were a creche. It is to do with the lack of development of the ground, obviously kids would have difficulty messing in an all-seater stadium, but it isnt safe at the very least. Its not as if self professed stalwart best DFC fans ever have not attempted to sue the club for injury and yet these would be the kind to let their kids scale the floodlight pylons which needed dedicted security at times.
We will differ on the impact, I simply dont think that sensible Dundalk fans should dismiss and flout the rules for a multtude of reasons, that the club should own the issue and sell pints for cunsumption in the ground from the YDC and the 2 bars the other side.
I just like to point out I've never smuggled cans into the game. Tesco bag for life and 4 cans in them
I was stopped I'd say twice this season going into Oriel and steward looked in bag and said go on
Only ever time cans have been taking off me was one European game, and the stewards exact words were it's Europe tonight diff rules to a league game
All that says is that the stewards in question are rubbish!
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