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    Drogs are doing instalment payments on their season tickets also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    Good enough for them. Hoorbags.
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    Seemingly good news coming from Dundalk next week, tax bill reported to have been settled or offer accepted either way tax cert meant to be on its way, and the club seem confident the FD licence will be confirmed by middle of next week.

    Signings then due to be announced after the tax cert / licence confirmed, so things are moving. Would be thinking most / all will be FD players, and that will suit.
    Last edited by oriel; 01/12/2024 at 4:18 PM.
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    The senior taxman in the country grew up beside me about 10 minutes walk from Oriel, mad Celtic fan, wouldnt have been an Oriel regular but would have given as much wriggle room as was legally possible. The amount in question wasnt huge in the grand scheme so a payment plan wasnt tough to sign off on. Id have been more concerned by other creditors and how they could have moved to get payment but they now also seem fine with whatever has been agreed. Serious credit to whomever has been able to talk these people owed money in to being nice about it all. There better be follow through though!! These things tend to be one time offers of goodwill.

    It never ceases to amaze how the supposedly small things matter so much, like getting minor remedial work done on the YDC to allow it to reopen - on the surface it feels that if there is this attention to detail with the small stuff then it is at least possible the big stuff is being done right too. If clean toilets under the stand become a things rather than half storage areas I might start thinking that where we are now is the best thing to have happened. The immediate post P6 era admin acted as if these things were beneath their remit when they knew that fans were being wound up by basic neglect of Oriel never mind a lack of bigger plans and it was just lazy - how hard was it to delegate?

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    It's in one of the local papers in Dundalk today that we will be getting our licene tomorrow and also we have been giving permission to not change the pitch in oriel until next season

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    All a case of nothing to see here then. God love the FAI licensing dept.

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    The ultimate box ticking exercise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by placid casual View Post
    All a case of nothing to see here then. God love the FAI licensing dept.
    Hardly new stuff. Deadlines set in stone, debt restructured, revenue issue tax clearance, and mere plans for infrastructure have been sufficient for clubs forever. As always with the FAI decisions lead to more questions, grant for the pitch must be ok to sit there until next season, floodlights possibly the same if ok for 1st Division, budget for a penniless club no problem. Will be great craic if we go on a cup run and end up with a home draw, a televised semi final especially against a premier division side!

    Box ticking is what you want with licencing, pass or fail.....one day....

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    I'll be absolutely delighted if/when Dundalk get a licence but the FAI have created a serious problem for themselves going forward here. They essentially extended the deadline to allow one club to limp over the line and now they are giving them any amount of deregations (Nesta is correct that nearly every club in the league gets them) but it will be interesting to see what happens if there is a serious injury caused on that pitch in Oriel this season when it should have been ripped up by now. Can they be sure the floodlights will survive the season, they were reportedly on their last legs last season. Dundalk have been treated very poorly by the fai down the years but they've done them a serious turn here. Would they have done the same for a smaller club in the division? I'm not so sure..

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    Some parrallels here with when Derry City collapsed- the rules were ignored to get the latest incarnation back in (the licensing deadlines were already gone).

    But a few years later when the rogue trader wrecked Galway United and the trust kept them going to the end of the season, the trust were not allowed in.

    Inconsistency has always been a feature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    Some parrallels here with when Derry City collapsed- the rules were ignored to get the latest incarnation back in (the licensing deadlines were already gone).

    But a few years later when the rogue trader wrecked Galway United and the trust kept them going to the end of the season, the trust were not allowed in.

    Inconsistency has always been a feature.
    Wonder what ever happened to NG ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dundalkfc10 View Post
    It's in one of the local papers in Dundalk today that we will be getting our licene tomorrow and also we have been giving permission to not change the pitch in oriel until next season
    Was also in the local paper that P6 left 900k in the bank and wrote off a loan of 1.7m also when they left. Interesting that Statsports 'sponsorship' was over 600k after taking over. The finances shown are just mad. Its as if people just stopped bothering with efforts to generate income beyond matchdays at some point in 2022 and in to 2023 but kept spending, transfer fees and all.
    Not suggesting this happened but it looks like a takeover or a significant new investor was expected, would plug some holes (maybe to just get to another Euopean slot and continue winging it) but never materialised - fire sale, no full checks on a buyer, cant manage debt and other legacy debt also appears etc. It does explain why sponsorship fell so dramatically in one season if Statsports werent adding another wedge, it changes the perspective on whether that owner was as indifferent as they have been called out on. Maybe why there were differences of opinion in the boardroom (when and what the battle of the boardroom still piques interest!!) It was all just bizzare. Its amazing to see how opinions on things have been evolving locally, even that Mad Bill wasnt the maddest of it all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    Some parrallels here with when Derry City collapsed- the rules were ignored to get the latest incarnation back in (the licensing deadlines were already gone).

    But a few years later when the rogue trader wrecked Galway United and the trust kept them going to the end of the season, the trust were not allowed in.

    Inconsistency has always been a feature.
    I thought that they werent able to secure tax clearance or come to an arrangement?, thatd be more inconsistency with the revenue than FAI licencing. Not that FAI licencing isnt inconsistant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    I thought that they werent able to secure tax clearance or come to an arrangement?, thatd be more inconsistency with the revenue than FAI licencing. Not that FAI licencing isnt inconsistant.
    There was some handwaving over differences in the tax systems/financial years. Along other things. But the whiff of fudge has lessened over the years, only to come back strongly when needed.

    The Galway thing was convenient for the fai, with whatever other irons they had in the fire and look how that turned out. The Derry thing was decidedly not, following so closely after Shels.

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    Dundalk awarded a licence for 2025.

    Pretty cruel stuff from the official LOI Twitter account by clickbating Dundalk fans with the below tweet I genuinely thought I was clicking into a link about their licence being refused with the way it was worded!

    https://x.com/leagueofireland/status...870725302?s=46
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    Seemingly avoiding SCARP also, I knew a deal was done with Revenue last week, but this is even better news now.

    Can finally start to look ahead to 2025 and re-build things on and off the pitch.

    Regardless of any rivalry, I would genuinely never like to see any LOI club die, banter is one thing (and good fun !!), but all clubs mean a lot to so many and their community, we may be on a different path now, but to still have football and a club to follow every Friday is magic, so its just great news.

    What has happened is in the past, no point looking back, the millions, highs of euro nights and away travel, the league titles, won't achieve anything, time to move forward now.

    New chapter.
    Last edited by oriel; 05/12/2024 at 2:17 PM.
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    It’s good news alright and we can move forward now.
    I’d be worried though about the current owner letting Brian Ainscough off the hook completely. He has also apparently taken a swipe at the new supporters trust in his press conference today. Not exactly a sign of someone who wants to engage with the supporters going forward.

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    The two years that Galway Utd had out of the League really demonstrated that point Oriel. During our seven year stint in the First Division, even after a defeat, annoying as it was, in the back of my mind was the thought "at least we have a team to support". While we didn't win anything this season, it felt so successful after what we went through.

    Delighted that Dundalk got a licence and avoided examinership and SCARP. The League badly needs new teams, not less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    It’s good news alright and we can move forward now.
    I’d be worried though about the current owner letting Brian Ainscough off the hook completely. He has also apparently taken a swipe at the new supporters trust in his press conference today. Not exactly a sign of someone who wants to engage with the supporters going forward.
    He seems to have had a go at Brendan Ogle who is on the board of the trust. Ogle has always been a character who would get involved in spats

    He's one of the reasons myself and a good few of my mates, havnt signed up for the Trust

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    Quote Originally Posted by dundalkfc10 View Post
    He seems to have had a go at Brendan Ogle who is on the board of the trust. Ogle has always been a character who would get involved in spats

    He's one of the reasons myself and a good few of my mates, havnt signed up for the Trust
    Hasn't Temple had a go at Dan McDonnell as well? Seems he's also fond of a spat. Congrats on the license but yous would put Corrie to shame with the amount of petty drama at the minute any plans for the Christmas episode? It's usually a bumper one

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