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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    Dan McDonnell saying it’s genuinely a Clancy decision and not just the usual “mutual consent” line that gets peddled with a lot of sackings these days. With that in mind it seems a rash enough decision to spring it on the club after the game tonight, surely even if you think you’ll leave then you’d be better off sleeping on it for the night at the very least rather than in the immediate aftermath of a late defeat when emotions are still running high
    I was reading recently, Usher wouldn’t hire an assistant for Clancy. Apparently another coach and Bolger and beeb taking turns filling the gap all season.

    This season seems to be a repeat of the season Cork were last relegated. Usher proving he learnt nothing first time around.

    Can’t imagine the crowds will be healthy going forward for Cork either with tickets costing €25 a pop.

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    I wonder is Colin Healy regretting taking the Kerry job now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckett View Post
    I wonder is Colin Healy regretting taking the Kerry job now?
    Hard to know. Colin Healy prob not looking for too much pressure and I assume Kerry is part time. His wife passed last year and two young kids so getting a good balance will probably be a big factor for him.

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    Healy is full time role with Kerry and a fairly significant salary also I understand. Not sure on the contract length though, but would expect it’s 2.5 years given comments from Healy and the club. Cork wud have to pay significant compensation to get him now!!!

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    Apparently Healy turned down the assistant role at Cork in preseason

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    not sure hes regretting it. bizarre to go and ask him to be assistant after how everything ended last time. as for him getting timing wrong with kerry job, hes better off down there. he didnt do anything here last time to say hes up to it. might need somethign with less pressure to be springboard his career.

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    Will Cork look abroad, ala Waterford, I wonder ? The only available domestic candidate I can think of is Keith Long, which could actually be a decent appointment for them.
    Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckett View Post
    I wonder is Colin Healy regretting taking the Kerry job now?
    Very much doubt it. A current First Division club realistically was where Healy's managerial opportunity was going to materialise.
    I would have thought Keith Long would emerge as a leading contender.
    https://foot.ie/forums/117-Kerry-FC
    A Championship: 4 years - 8 first teams - 0 financially ruined. First Division '14: 7 first teams.
    Opportunity lost for new clubs/regions to join the LoI family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jd2793 View Post
    not sure hes regretting it. bizarre to go and ask him to be assistant after how everything ended last time. as for him getting timing wrong with kerry job, hes better off down there. he didnt do anything here last time to say hes up to it. might need somethign with less pressure to be springboard his career.
    I actually completely forgot that he was Cork City manager previously, that's embarrassing. I'd like to retract my question!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    I thought that too but if that’s the case then why take the game if you know you’re leaving straight after it?
    And why resign immediately after it, rather than over the weekend or Monday morning?
    All seems a bit dramatic.

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    The Tim Clancy/Cork break up is a bit strange to me.
    I see on socials that the owner is getting a lot of heat for not spending money on the playing side of things.
    Having Seani Maguire & Ruari Keating as your preferred striking partnership would have me doubting that no money is being spent and to me it seems that the onus to replace an assitant coach, S&C coach and Physio would fall on the first team amanger rather than the owner? You always hear non football people should stay out of football and I would certainly view these hires as being dependant on the manager as they would work together on a daily basis, so maybe this is where there are budget shortfalls?
    At the same time Clancy was commuting from Meath and apparently starting his own business? so did he ever really commit to Cork and was he letting these hires slip?
    I also notice that many fans are bemoaning the hire of commercial and events managers for the business side of the club but from the outside looking in this is the type of thing a club like Cork needs?
    They have a massive catchment area with large population, they are trying their hand at designing and releasing their own kits (personally I think this is a folly but its good to see clubs trying something) and their crowds, like many in the league, seem tied to the fortunes of the team. If they can improve that so they have a steady home support week in week out that means the playing budget can increase. These types of roles should be looked at as revenue generators and not taking away from the football side of things. Cork themselves have recent experience of ****ing a big budget on a playing squad and failing to make europe so they should understand as well as any club in the league the foolishness of spending all your money chasing fools gold.
    It just seems a bizare situation from whatever lens you view it through.

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    Who are the potential candidates for the Cork job!

    Keith Long, RuaidhrĂ­ Higgins...............!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    Who are the potential candidates for the Cork job!

    Keith Long, RuaidhrĂ­ Higgins...............!
    Rumours that it's going to be Ger Nash, currently an assistant coach at GAIS in Sweden and was Aston Villa U18s manager and Ipswich Town academy/23s manager before that. He was interviewed for the Pats job at least 3 times in the past and the Cork job last time it came up
    Paaatrick's Agletic

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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    Who are the potential candidates for the Cork job!

    Keith Long, RuaidhrĂ­ Higgins...............!
    Higgins was appointed manager of Coleraine at the beginning of the month:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/cdxg84rzxd5o

    Or am I missing some sort of a joke?

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    Interview with Tim Clancy on off the ball below. He started a business with his wife in Trim this year and was travelling between Trim and Cork daily this season. That and the lack of an assistant the last 2 or 3 months (they were knocked back by several of the candidates), plus the lack of other first team staff like a full time analyst meant the work load was too high and burned him out. He mentioned himself and his assistant at the time finishing training in Cork at half 1, driving up to Derry to watch them play Bohs, then driving home the same night and arriving back at half 4 in the morning before taking training at 9am later that morning. Regardless of having a full time assistant and analysis or not, thinking it’d be possible to juggle full time management alongside managing a new business 3 hours away was utterly bonkers thinking

    https://youtu.be/coJM9VyqNWM?si=2lGsRl_KvzbNDBUG
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    Interview with Tim Clancy on off the ball below. He started a business with his wife in Trim this year and was travelling between Trim and Cork daily this season. That and the lack of an assistant the last 2 or 3 months (they were knocked back by several of the candidates), plus the lack of other first team staff like a full time analyst meant the work load was too high and burned him out. He mentioned himself and his assistant at the time finishing training in Cork at half 1, driving up to Derry to watch them play Bohs, then driving home the same night and arriving back at half 4 in the morning before taking training at 9am later that morning. Regardless of having a full time assistant and analysis or not, thinking it’d be possible to juggle full time management alongside managing a new business 3 hours away was utterly bonkers thinking

    https://youtu.be/coJM9VyqNWM?si=2lGsRl_KvzbNDBUG

    Good to see Miggle D has a career as a presenter for Newstalk when his time as president is up. Hes always been a great supporter of the league so hopefully he can continue to promote the league.

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    You cant fault effort but you can question committment, not in a deliberate manner, just poorly judged by Clancy. He'd had enough and thats understandable as nobody could manage that sort of schedule without burning out. The club should have been wondering how this could work too imo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    You cant fault effort but you can question committment, not in a deliberate manner, just poorly judged by Clancy. He'd had enough and thats understandable as nobody could manage that sort of schedule without burning out. The club should have been wondering how this could work too imo!

    From the interview at least Clancy did say the club had sorted accomodation for him, given him the money to replace his assistant and since he signed a new striker there recently who has hit the ground running and mentioned that a few other signings were in the pipeline I think some of the questions about Corks budget can be put to bed. They have enough to at least be competitive in this league from the sounds of it and given how close the league is with the right appointment that they could find themselves safe and depending on fitness maybe make a run at the cup (I'd wager a few teams are eyeing that strategy up in fairness).

    On your question about the commitment I have to agree. I dont think he was fully commited whether he realised it or not. He mentions things like video analyst and opposition analysts and to the best of my knowledge Bohs only filled these roles last season. I'm not sure if its a role every club in the league has at the minute? Do Drogheda, Waterford, Sligo have it? I'd wager the Dublin teams do. So this work would then be done by the manager or assistants at any club that doesnt have it filled or even club volunteers. So the level of effort he mentions seems to be normal albeit hightened as he hadnt replaced his assistant yet. If the budget is there to hire people that make your life easier and you arent doing it I think commitment has to be questioned. Never mind the commute and starting another business. Honestly this interview was a bit of a trainwreck for him IMO and he would have been better off saying nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Another Bohemia View Post
    From the interview at least Clancy did say the club had sorted accomodation for him, given him the money to replace his assistant and since he signed a new striker there recently who has hit the ground running and mentioned that a few other signings were in the pipeline I think some of the questions about Corks budget can be put to bed. They have enough to at least be competitive in this league from the sounds of it and given how close the league is with the right appointment that they could find themselves safe and depending on fitness maybe make a run at the cup (I'd wager a few teams are eyeing that strategy up in fairness).

    On your question about the commitment I have to agree. I don't think he was fully committed whether he realised it or not. He mentions things like video analyst and opposition analysts and to the best of my knowledge Bohs only filled these roles last season. I'm not sure if its a role every club in the league has at the minute? Do Drogheda, Waterford, Sligo have it? I'd wager the Dublin teams do. So this work would then be done by the manager or assistants at any club that doesnt have it filled or even club volunteers. So the level of effort he mentions seems to be normal albeit heightened as he hadnt replaced his assistant yet. If the budget is there to hire people that make your life easier and you arent doing it I think commitment has to be questioned. Never mind the commute and starting another business. Honestly this interview was a bit of a trainwreck for him IMO and he would have been better off saying nothing.
    Hope he makes a success with the new business in Trim or else his wife could sack him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    Hope he makes a success with the new business in Trim or else his wife could sack him!
    In fairness he is fully committed to her. Married with kids, starting a business together. Cant ask for more commitment than that Also I'd say the commute is a lot easier

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