QuoteIt was funny when Farrelly (I think) was taking a free and your man just started screaming at him!Originally Posted by joeraki
Megaphones are grad once they are used for what they are meant to be used for ie to get the crowd all singing a certain song. The person using it last night just seemed to be saying any oul stuff that came into his head
It was funny when Farrelly (I think) was taking a free and your man just started screaming at him!
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What? You've never sweared at a game of football, no?
Sitting pretty!!!
To be honest its not the cursing that I have a problem with, its the megaphone been used in the ground without being too pc.
I reckon everyone should sneak in banners to the matches next week and unfold them all at the same time
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I can remember Waterford United fans calling Willie Bruton awful names altogether over the megaphone at the last game in the cross. Simply gastly names !!
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
was at the match last night but didn't see the banner or hear the megaphone - probably was drowned out by the guy behind me who spent the entire match - as he does every week - shouting 'Stokes, you're a f..king clown' or ' you useless Rovers c..t, Stokes' (or Kelly. or Mckeon or whoever). There were a load of kids in front, who were imitating him and giggling ..... terrible entirely
are you lot for real with this no swearing in EL grounds?
Kids are exposed to bad language in school, at their football clubs, kicking a ball on the street were they live. Should they not go to school, or join a football club on that basis?
Its funny listening to Cork fans whinging about foul language when their own stewards are not shy about using foul language when dealing with paying punters at Turners Cross.
Bit of an overreaction, I think.Because some foul mouth had his loudspeaker removed, the FAI are trying to kill the EL!! What a joke. I'm sure parents would love to bring their kids along again to an EL game if some idiot is sitting in their vicinity blaring off obscenities into a loud speaker. Yep, the FAI sure has it in for the EL
First of all, anybody with a megaphone is going to be in the middle of the away support. People bringing kids generally don't sit down beside the away fans, or if they do, they can move. (Incidentally, I do think bringing megaphones into grounds is stupid, because it makes it sound as if you have less fans than you do and you need a megaphone to make yourselves sound louder).
However, this isn't an isolated incident of late. Pressure has been put on people to remove posts from internet forums (at least two incidents of this in recent months). Clubs have been fined for abusive (yet in cases factually correct, in others honest opinion) banners. Cork City FC evidently had pressure placed on them to come down hard on any anti-Don Givens banners at the recent U-21 game in Cork. This all smacks of the FAI attempting to minimise any negative public comment. This is plain suppression of freedom of speech, and is disgraceful behaviour by the FAI. eL fans are right to be very p!ssed off at this, in my opinion.
Such a load of bullsh!t, football grounds are not ment to be like in the Premiersh!t. There ment to be Couldrons of hostility and noise and passion, not a couple of chartered accountants sitting on there coushions nibbling on there prawn sandwiches discussing the financial times. Get a grip, the media in England have portrayed the Premiersh!t style fan as the norm when, thank god, they are very much not. Look at Italy, France, Germany, Spain, Argentina, Brazil, anywhere that isnt the Premiersh!t. Family friendly, bollax to that, dya not remember your father bringing ya ta games when you were a kid and him releasing a torrent of language and gestures at the opposition. Whats more everyone around him was doing it, did i turn me into a crazed axe murderer, no it didnt. The language kids hear at football games isnt half as bad as the stuff your kids are saying on the playground, its what kids do. Dont buy into the Marketing campaign which has created a freak featis of the footballing world that is FrankenSHIP, no real fans, no real loyalty, no real club.
Because some foul mouth had his loudspeaker removed, the FAI are trying to kill the EL!! What a joke. I'm sure parents would love to bring their kids along again to an EL game if some idiot is sitting in their vicinity blaring off obscenities into a loud speaker. Yep, the FAI sure has it in for the EL
I have no problem admitting that I was in the centre of the "megaphone incident" last night.
I was in possession of the megaphone for part of the game, whilst at other times our harmonica player was using it. Between myself and the harmonica player, others had possession of the megaphone. I believe this is when the cursing occurred. I have the match recorded, but haven't had the chance to look at it again to listen to the incidents mentioned here.
The Bohemians security staff approached me whilst I was in possession of the megaphone and forcefully made me aware that the lanaguage used had been reported by the referee and the FAI match delegate.
The security staff intimated that I would be removed from the ground if this occurred again. I pointed out to the security that I wasn't the one using the bad lanaguage through the megaphone, but agreed with him that I would ensure that there was no repeat.
It was ironic, given that I had to use the megaphone to make the ground security aware of the fact that there were kids wrecking our flags at the back of Block A in the first half. Indeed some of them decided it would be good craic to urinate over the top of one of the flags. We also had to alert the security that kids from Bohemains youth side(in full Bohemians gear) were goading the away support and throwing drinks over them.
The removal of the Bohemians banner claiming that the Investigative Committee was a farce was a complete joke. The lad was putting it up on the Shopping Ground End(just below where the huge black and red flag was) and immediately a posse of stewards descended on it. Their excuse was "We didn't want to take it down but the FAI made us". My post regarding the "banner police" a few days ago wasn't too far off the mark.
FFS we were asked not to sign tune from "The Great Escape" tonight as some Rovers fans were offended by it
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[QUOTE=pineapple stu] This is plain suppression of freedom of speech, and is disgraceful behaviour by the FAI. QUOTE]
Im following Eircom League football for nearly 20 years now (since I was 4). I have no time for this shower anymore over a good few things that have happened over the last couple of weeks and we cant let it go on any further -are we in a censor free country or not- time to stand up and be counted people
DAN CONNOR HATES CITY, HE HATES LANGERS
It's not often that I agree with stewards, but they were 100% right to tell you to stop with the magaphone. You can't pay in somewhere the same as everyone else and start cursing through a megaphone, not acceptable behaviour!
Derry fans are a joke anyway, you need a megaphone to make yourselves heard? pathetic, are youse football fans or what??
Exactly !!!!!! Im sick to the back teeth of the FAIlureHowever, this isn't an isolated incident of late. Pressure has been put on people to remove posts from internet forums (at least two incidents of this in recent months). Clubs have been fined for abusive (yet in cases factually correct, in others honest opinion) banners. Cork City FC evidently had pressure placed on them to come down hard on any anti-Don Givens banners at the recent U-21 game in Cork. This all smacks of the FAI attempting to minimise any negative public comment. This is plain suppression of freedom of speech, and is disgraceful behaviour by the FAI. eL fans are right to be very p!ssed off at this, in my opinion.
No, I'm not employed by "the FAI". I just get tired about every conceivable ill in Irish soccer being put at the door of "the FAI". Ever consider what "the FAI" is that everyone criticises. It's made up of numerous different people nearly all of whom are involved in soccer in Ireland and putting work into Junior, EL and International soccer. People sit at keyboards criticizing "the FAI" but what they are attacking is the people involved in all walks of Irish soccer because that's what the FAI is made up of.The FAI has been the biggest failLURE in irish sport for the last 20 + years. Obviously your pretty ignorant yourself or you work for the FAIlure. Ever have any problems with ticket allocations and the FAIlure ? Do you know where the money comes from ?? its certainly not from Delaneys pockets, it comes from the government, sponsors and the taxpayer.
If the FAI had its way they would be flying first class to the world cup while the players sit in economy. So what if there is foul mouth language used in games, what do you expect ?? too many childern at the grounds can be troublesome too.
The FAI , the bastion of Irish soccer, whatever next
Tell us what your solutions are other than condemning the FAI for taking a megaphone away from some idiot - to be any where in the vicinity of that guy would do my head in.
The main root of the problem with soccer in this country is that it can't compete with the GAA. For historical reasons the GAA became embedded in every parish in the country and soccer was regarded as a garrison sport and was played primarily by the working classes in the cities. Soccer never had the nationwide support or money it needed. The ban made sure that soccer would never spread beyond its narrow origins and by the time the ban was removed, TV had arrived and people preferred to spend their afternoons in front of the box rather than watching soccer played in run down grounds.
Even if "the FAI" was the best run organisation in the world, it would have found it impossible to compete with the GAA. They certainly would never have been able to afford a decent stadium on the money generated from soccer in this country. There has to be a reason why with the hundreds of different people who have served in the "the FAI" over the decades haven't been able to turn things round. The structures of course needed addressing but ther problems with soccer are much more deep rooted.
"The FAI" has done well in developing the Under age international teams but the international teams and the local teams are 2 different products and I'm not sure the EL will ever succeed on a mjor basis. There just isn't the culture to support your local side like there is in the GAA. If soccer could perhaps be county based there might be some hope.
Didnt see the match so I cant say one thing or the other for definite but IMO,
Megaphones are great, every club should have one!
Sometimes chants have curses in them, to be honest, this happens, like it or not (and not just in the eL)
However there is always a line that shouldnt be crossed
If a match is going out live on tv than the fans should take measures to ensure that what is shouted out is ok for the tv audience (sounds PC I know, but it should). If RTE or whoever dont like what is being broadcast (or get complaints) then they will be less likely to show more games.
Anyway, all that is just a generalisation and my 2 cents.
As I say, we're just young & a bit nieve.
I was at the game and have to say the Derry fans were great....incessant in their singing throughout the game. I think the megaphone is not a bad idea per se, it just needs to be used more sparingly, perhaps just to get the chants going like in Italy rather than right throughout the game.
I liked the harmonica though...whisky in the jar has real potential as a football song I think.
Having the EL is necessary in order for us to have a National team.
Otherwise the whole Island would be represented by a team of Billy Boys from Belfast!
And still nothing done about it !!
He is still there and is still compromising his position, undermining the whole youth system. How is he being left away with this ???
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
OwlsFan, do you want to address my comments when defending the FAI? I'm sure they've done some good, but their actions of late have been disgraceful.
Incidentally, ask Waterford United fans about the superb work some current high-profile FAI members have done at club level. The FAI is a back-stabbing, back-scratching, looking-out-for-number-one organisation. Look at the travel and accommodation arrangements for the 1990 World Cup, the continual refusal to implement Genesis in full, the ousting of high-profile employees who were doing good for the league - e.g. Fran Rooney, Brendan Dillon, etc. - simply because they went against the grain.
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