Quoteeh so that means what?
Last season Dinamo came 2nd to Steaua. This season they're currently 2nd to Steaua. Shels gave Steaua a run for their money.
eh so that means what?
...that Everton lost 5-1. They're going back to midtable obscurity.
Yeah, what has that got to do with it.
oh right......midtable?? Thats asking a bit much from them isnt it!?!?!
Great result for Romanian soccer.
Just shows what a good organised team can do.
I suppose, thats what happen when you play Phil Neville in the holding role. He might be able to cope at full back or supporting Roy Keane but he certainly can't hold the midfield.
It must be a major shock for P.Neville, going from a bit part player to a main one.
Everton really got a monking last night.
if Everton were an EL team this result would be held up by everyone in this country for saying the league was sh.t
Originally Posted by wws
if Everton were an EL team this result would be held up by everyone in this country for saying the league was sh.t
That is very true
nothing short of disgraceful result for everton.
they have spent a good lot of money on beattie, van der meyde,cahill,krodstrup,p neville etc.
it just shows you that its all about coaching and these romanian teams are being coached the right way from youth level.
maybe if england moved to a summer season they'd be better prepared? They have to do something and quick, how on earth are we expected to watch that muck when there are better alternatives like greyhound racing, GAA and eurovision???
if Everton were an EL team this result would be held up by everyone in this country for saying the league was sh.t
The very same thing crossed my mind last night.
Have Boot Disk, will travel
Very good point about the eL by WWS.
I think that result actually does say a lot about English football. Mid-table English teams are mediocre by European standards.
I said earlier on another thread that the game is moving on throughout the world but we're failing to noitice it due to our obsession with watching the Premiership. Results like Liverpool winning the CL and Rangers beating Porto obviously test this assertion but by & large there's a standard of football being played around the world now that has improved a lot in recent years while the median Premiership club has stood still (at best). Perhaps this is because "foreign" leagues & their clubs have adapted to the rule changes and interpretations that FIFA have introduced in the last decade to promote techical ability whereas British-style football still favours power over technique.
I expect the 2006 World Cup will showcase just how much the world game is moving on from the game around these parts and maybe some food for thought will be put on the table.
Clearly a crisis in English football when 4th place in the league loses 3 games on the trot in Europe & gets trashed by eastern european nobodies. I expect to see barstoolers abandon the EPL for La Liga now.
Last edited by pete; 16/09/2005 at 11:43 AM.
Rapid drew away to Feyernoord and Steaua won 3-0 against Valerenga as well. All very good results.
I wonder how the 5th place team will do then ?
Ye are all over reacting. Everton are, and always have been, a great big pile of s**te. They shouldn't be anywhere near Europe. They poxed fourth place last year mainly because Liverpool messed up. Liverpool were in transition under Benitez, who was trying to get to grips with the English game, and their best player Gerrard didn't know his arse from his elbow for most of the season. That's mainly why Everton finished where they did.
Look at it this way. The likes of Spurs and Man City, who play good football under their new coaches, will move up the table this season and replace the likes of Everton, Boro and Bolton, who all play crap football. So next year you are probably looking at Chelsea, Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal in the CL, with Spurs and Man City in UEFA Cup. Last year was a poor Premiership, this year I think it will be a lot better and a lot closer.
dont forget LFC had the worst injury season in their history too
So if they got fourth because of Liverpool, then they'd have gotten fifth anyway and been in Europe still. It's still a fair achievement to come from nowhere to get fifth in the Premiership.
I agree that they're an average English team - can't deny that. But there's no point taking away from their achievement last season. Average English teams have always done poorly in Europe - Southampton (lost to the same team, didn't they?), Man City, Millwall...sure there's a couple more.
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